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Bill, I am impressed. You were right on the money. I could not have described this gun better with it sitting in front of me. So is ammunition readily available for this? It would be nice to at least have some. It is not likley I would fire it without it being thoroughly inspected. Andy

It has been my pleasure to share this treasure with all of you. I have learned a great deal from those on this forum and cannot thank you enough. I have found everyone exceptionally genuine and respectful. My biggest fear was that initiating a dialog on an internet forum would lead to alot of...

I cheated. Had a contact at the FBI. He helped alot. And yes, there may yet be some paperwork involved but the general feeling is that going down the "machine gun" road is not where they see this heading. Of course my goal is to have all this in writing sooner or later. I had to go the...

Gentlemen, I have been advised by someone at the BATFE Technical Services Branch that my rifle falls under the C&R classification 29 CFR part 478.11 due to its uniqueness, rarity, age (over 50 yrs) and likely value (apparently alot). They advise that a museum curator can also categorize it...

Sam1911, I share your concern. Any advice on how to proceed? Andy

more history Timing was everything. And my Great Uncle was at the right place at the right time. A week or two after the war was over in 1945 his platoon was heading into Berlin and happened upon this gun shop in the area of Suhl. I believe it was actually Franz Kettner's retail store. I...

Here are some details pics of the mechanics. You'll notice the lower pin sticks out a little. The return spring is a bit whipped. I will check around locally to see if there is a smith that can cast and slug the barrels.

Bill, I have dissassembled the firing mechanism from the hammers down through the firing pins. One hammer has a one piece rod that is directly hit by the hammer and is the actual firing pin. The other hammer is quite different internally. The hammer hits a pin that, on the outside, looks...

end of barrels and trigger detail

Ok. More pics. Stamps on the lower barrel. It must be removed to expose these. the other is a nice side view of the detail

Bill, Thank you for your interest and information. the numbers stamped on the barrels (top 4) all say 129/43. Based on the info the German Gun Collectors info I have found that these numbers equate to a .330 inch bore. That in millimeters is 8.382. It seems your 8.13mm suggestion might be...

As per your advise, I have been to the site of the German Gun Collectors Assoc and there is alot of good info here. The question of barrel dimensions can now be answered. The top barrels are .330" and the lower is .410". This is based off the stampings on the barrels. The GGCA had a handy...

No sign of an "N" or the word Nitro. Black powder era? How old do you think this might be?

additional info and pics There are also two more stampings only on the lower left and right barrels. They are a letter "V" with a crown over it. No idea what these mean. I know the "U" is a craftsmenship proof stamp. The "G" indicates rifled barrels and the "R" indictates repair work has...

I appreciate your concern and no offense taken. You read correctly though. As far as I can tell the trigger that sets off the four top barrels cannot be recognized seperately by the hammer and firing pins. Therefore it seems they are designed to go off together. Scary. So does an old gun...

So a "funfling" is what its called. Thank you. I have had the barrels off. There are stamps on every one. I have learned alot about what the stamps mean from this Forum when I was doing internet research on the gun. On each there is a "U" with a crown over it, a "G" with a crown over it...

Thank you for the info. I look forward to hearing more from the wealth of knowledge I believe exists on the forum. So far I have not been able to find a single reference to a 5 barrled gun anywhere on the web so I am hoping someone sees this and has information. I also have someone at Kettner...

I am not sure what ATF thinks.........and quite frankly don't care to know. As a new member I am surprised such a question was posted.

yea. it's in great shape. My great Uncle walked into a hunting shop near Berlin in 1945 just as the war was ending. The owner GAVE it to him. He told my Uncle that he would be losing everything within a day or two anyway. I just inherited it. As far as mechanics, one hammer fires the...

some helpful pics