Ive been shooting one belonging to my neighbor. We're back at 35yds on a bench using 230 gr LSWC's 5.1 gr's of Unique, cci300 primers, moderate taper crimp. The loads over my chrony are showing an avg vel of 780 a SD of 8.12 (4 subs of 8) so the loads are consistent, just not grouping very well...