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    So you think the majority of LEO's are anti-gun?

    I knew someone was going to say it. It's not a good societal disarmament tool, it's a genuinely bad one. They have to wait for legislation that requires you to inform, then they have to wait for you to make a mistake so they can pull you over, then they have to wait for legislation that...
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    So you think the majority of LEO's are anti-gun?

    While I may be coming down on the wrong side of this for this particular forum, I have to admit that I'm much more sympathetic to the police than the CCW holder when it comes to a temporary disarmament during a traffic stop. The particular cops in question in that second forum thread that was...
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    The Game Design Industry and Firearms

    1) How do you see the game design industry depictions/uses of firearms in games? - I think they're progressing just fine. I think they should teach gamers the 4 rules though, because A) those rules should be known by everyone everywhere and B) lots of kids are impressionable as hell. 2)...
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    deadly force

    Legal or not, shooting an unleashed dog seems like a serious overreaction in most scenarios that I can dream up. Of course there are exceptions, but for the most part it seems like a better idea to yell at it and give it a kick rather than mow it down. Whether it's legal for you to do it or...
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    Looks like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

    Maybe if folks would stop seeing innovations as an attempt to fix problems, and start seeing them as ways to potentially improve upon what already works, you'd hear that a lot less. There's really nothing out there that's so perfect that it couldn't stand a tweak here and there just to see if...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    First, sorry about the double-post, that was unintentional. -"So the issue really is how to go about getting it." -"Like I said, that's obvious." If it were obvious, we wouldn't have spent four pages going back and forth on it. We did not both accept this item at the beginning of the...
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    So who used to be anti-gun?

    I've never been anti-gun. I was in my freshman year of high school when Columbine happened, and it actually made me more pro-gun than anti-gun, just due to all the backlash that the event created. I've lived in a very, very liberal community in a very liberal city my entire life, and as a...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "You keep bringing up the obvious differences as if it was the real issue." These differences are a real issue. If we all want safety, then there's no end-state disagreement inherent in that conclusion. So the issue, then, is how best to get to that end-state. Nobody's bickering about...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "You keep bringing up the obvious differences as if it was the real issue." These differences are a real issue. If we all want safety, then there's no end-state disagreement inherent in that conclusion. So the issue, then, is how best to get to that end-state. Nobody's bickering about...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "We may all want safety but at what price?" There it is, right exactly there. You just said what its all about. We do all want safety, and are williing to pay differently to get it. "You seem to want to placate the left, you can't, they want more and more control over your life for an...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "I've spent something like twenty years in usenet and fidonet before it, fighting [the most virulent anti-gunners. It's not "assumption". It's EXPERIENCE." Well then let me start by saying thank you for fighting the good fight for so long. But, when you talked about this experience, you...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "Respectfulness is all very well, but please bear in mind that it is no more a gentleman’s game at times when the survival of our Constitution and liberty are at stake." I would think that my presence on this forum would have acknowledged that without me needing to say anything.
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "We do not want the same thing, we want liberty, they want control." But these are again methods. The phrase "an armed society is a polite society" that is so often championed in our own ranks speaks volumes about what that liberty ought to bring: safety. We ought to be free to carry guns...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "It absolutely is seeking control for control's sake. It means that you want your will imposed onto others against their will. Our founders wanted as little government control as possible not as much as possible." I know what the founders were after, but that's a topic for another thread, maybe...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "Yeah, I CAN fault her for it, just as I can fault vegans who starve their infant to death by giving it an inappropriate diet, or just as I can fault someone who allows their child to die of treatable diabetes because they prefer prayer to insulin." Just as they can fault gunners for kids'...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    "Not to pick on your girlfriend but she probably is fairly typical of antis." She is, that's precisely the point. She's not some evil, slavemaster politician, she's a humanist advocating what she sees as the best route. Nobody can fault her for it, just as nobody can fault you for doing the...
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    What Do The Anti's Really Want?

    It's patently unfair, in my view, to demonize antis as megalomaniacs or people who are sick. Some of them think the exact same thing about you, and that certainly doesn't make them right. Lets be honest with ourselves, and not turn this into an ad-hominem contest. The way I see it, antis...
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    Well I ain't but Oleg but I want to know what you think (PICS)

    I'm going to offer some criticism in a slightly different direction, take it for what you think it's worth. As far as the picture, I'd definitely back out a little bit and play with angles and lighting a bit, just to give the picture some depth and to make things look more substantial. As far...
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    YET ANOTHER...home invasion

    The important adjective here being "calm". It won't benefit you to fly off the handle over every drunken shenanigan that gets pulled. There's really no revelation in this story. Yes, there are people who'd like to come into your house and take something from you, whatever that may be. Yes...
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    CC "badge"... Could you get in trouble with it

    This one seems to come up a lot. I'd advise against it. When cops show up I'm not moving one millimeter more than they tell me to, and they're not going to tell me to reach inside any of my pockets if they show up and I've already had to shoot, or even may have to shoot in the near future...
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