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    Putting to rest the myth of the "Cowboy Carry": Colt + S&W recommended carry w/all 6 chambers loaded

    See: 100 replies and not a single person has yet posted documentation from before 1899 describing the "cowboy carry." You can't fault me for getting bored from waiting on you experts now, can you?
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    Putting to rest the myth of the "Cowboy Carry": Colt + S&W recommended carry w/all 6 chambers loaded

    Here are the original instructions: Originals had slightly tapered chambers to swage the bullet down to size, so unless you are shooting far oversized round balls, you won't get a shaved ring of lead. That's why colt's instructions don't specify the "shaved ring of lead" Note that most...
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    Putting to rest the myth of the "Cowboy Carry": Colt + S&W recommended carry w/all 6 chambers loaded

    But since you insist: And oh, I also forgot to include the original colt boxed-set packaging in my first post too. Gary, you must've been on to something here! By the way, if any of you gentlemen would like to post any of that primary source evidence that documents that the cowboy...
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    Putting to rest the myth of the "Cowboy Carry": Colt + S&W recommended carry w/all 6 chambers loaded

    I'm looking forward to watching the mental gymnastics that the historical revisionists will use to cope with the cognitive dissonance of seeing the original, historical facts. Let's find out how many people on this forum get upset from learning about firearms history! How about the...
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    Putting to rest the myth of the "Cowboy Carry": Colt + S&W recommended carry w/all 6 chambers loaded

    It's time to put to rest the myth of the "Cowboy Carry" of "load 5 and leave the hammer on an unloaded chamber." I'm here to discuss What was done historically, back in the old west period of 1865-1890. And no, history doesn't care about: what your favorite 1930's/1950's/1970's western or...
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    CCI Large Pistol Primers in 45-70 (Trapdoor pressures)

    Ah that's what I fear is happening with mine (see the picture with one showing a pierced primer). How do you mean you "adjusted" the firing pin? Shortened it slightly with a fine india stone? And did it still work with proper LRP ammo afterwards? Thankfully trapdoor firing pins are only $20-$30...
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    CCI Large Pistol Primers in 45-70 (Trapdoor pressures)

    Any issues with primer setback or piercing? Or do they look indistinguishable from using normal Large Rifle primers
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    CCI Large Pistol Primers in 45-70 (Trapdoor pressures)

    Alright, so reaching the primers is not a problem. Here are four cases loaded with the primers visibly below flush As I suspected, primer setback might be an issue. You can see one of the primers here is dark, showing that it was pierced, if even slightly, venting the primer gases into the...
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    CCI Large Pistol Primers in 45-70 (Trapdoor pressures)

    Does anyone do this? I'm less worried about pressure levels, since these loads will be trapdoor pressures (~20,000 CUP) which is far less that 44 mag pressures which work fine with LPP. I've also heard stories of people intentionally using pistol primers for a easier ignition when loading 45-70...
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    How trustworthy is reloading data from Lyman 44?

    Sharpe's 1937 data (which the Lyman 44 most resembles) does provide pressure data though. For the 98 grain lead bullet, he has 12,500 with 4 grains of unique and 15,00 with 4.3 grains of unique, with data provided by Hercules (old manufacturer of Unique). I believe these units are PSI because...
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    How trustworthy is reloading data from Lyman 44?

    The lyman 44 (1967) shows some pretty heavy maximum loads for 32 S&W long, like 4.3 grains of unique for a 93 grain cast bullet and 3.5 gr for 115 grain cast bullet. Meanwhile the Lyman 48 (2002) manual shows a maximum of only 2.8 gr of unique for a 100 gr jacketed bullet. It doesn't appear to...
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    Bear creek bullets - Moly coated polymer safe for bores?

    This is pretty reassuring - thanks guys, going to place an order today! From reading articles/posts on benchrest and precision websites, i've heard they have two explanations: 1) the moly coating is molybdenum disulfide, and under high pressure and heat, the disulfide decomposes into free...
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    Bear creek bullets - Moly coated polymer safe for bores?

    Does anyone have any experience with bear creek bullets, and if the polymer/moly mix is safe for bores? or does it cause corrosion and/or "ruin" the bores permanently like what some precision rifle shooters claim about moly coated jacketed bullets? Also, does anyone have experience with bear...
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    Did they really load just five rounds?

    It's almost as if he loaded it -- and here comes the shocker -- according to Colt's original instructions: with 6 chambers full and carried on "the safety notch"
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    Did they really load just five rounds?

    Just because a gun was made in 1884, doesn't mean it was lost in the desert in 1884. You own and shoot guns made before 2022, do you? He didn't recommend it, but he was definitely carrying with a round under the hammer in a non-gunfight situation back in 1876. Why would an expert lawman do such...
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    Disproving the myth of "Air Gap is dangerous" for Black Powder Cartridges

    Why did Frankford Arsenal load 45-70 cases with 20 grains of powder, 50 grains of air space, and a 230 gr bullet? Shouldn't more air gap be more dangerous in this case, since the powder has a higher chance of flashing over and detonating? 20 grains and a 230gr bullet is no slouch either...
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    Did they really load just five rounds?

    Instead of speculating about what is myth and lore, why not listen to what the US Army recommended back in 1875? See this thread for more discussion of primary sources https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/the-single-action-safety-notch-and-the-cowboy-load-myth.891577/ In summary, we...
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    Disproving the myth of "Air Gap is dangerous" for Black Powder Cartridges

    If you've ever dry-balled a flintlock, you would know that trickling 3-4gr of 4F through the touchhole is enough to knock a patched roundball from a 42" PA long rifle. I have no doubts that 4-7 gr of 3Fg or 4Fg, plus the power of a large rifle primer, would get a lubricated, unpatched round ball...
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    Disproving the myth of "Air Gap is dangerous" for Black Powder Cartridges

    I was always taught that air gap in black powder cartridges was dangerous. The logic was from muzzleoading, where if you short-started but forgot to ram down a ball, you ended up with a bore obstruction some 2 feet away from the powder charge, leading to a risk of ringing the barrel. While that...
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    Trapdoor Springfield - How much breech block wobble is acceptable?

    See that's why I'm concerned. I've read a lot of posts by people saying even their trash mix-master guns have no breechblock movement at lockup, so any movement at lockup makes me worry something is not right. So is movement at lockup normal or not?
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