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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    A .410 bore would be close to a 67 gauge, respectively. The shot shells are much smaller. You can’t fit nearly enough powder or shot in that small of a shell to equal the velocities and energy of a 12 gauge. Just for grins, even in your example, at equal velocities, the payload with 34...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    DocRock, Thanks for the response. The pellet size for 00 or 000 may be the same, but there is fewer shot and far less powder in a 410 shell. The velocities for 410 are much lower than 12 gauge.
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    Thanks! I actually think in this particular niche for home defense shotguns, I think it is a master of simplicity, extreme reliability, maneuverability, follow-up shots, controlled recoil, etc. I just think there are intrinsic advantages to it. To your point about the shallow rifling, if...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    I understand there are more powerful shotgun options available. But for something that is effective, extremely reliable, extremely simple, less chance of over penetration, extremely light and maneuverable, low recoil, fast follow up shots, I think this lends itself well to that as a great...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    To add to that, I think the revolver is inherently more reliable than an auto-loader as well. The Landor Arms shotgun is interesting. I haven’t seen that before. If it’s a smooth bore though, I don’t think it’s legal here. Watch out for that. I like the picatinny rail on the CJ too.
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    I don’t think it would be legal to modify the bore to a smooth bore. The rifling is what classifies it as a rifle. Modifying it to be a smooth bore revolving cylinder shotgun would make it an illegal firearm “Street sweeper”. The original post specified the choke that is unique to the...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    Thanks DocRock, Part of what formed my opinion about this gun for home defense was 410 buckshot being “small” and “under powered” compared to 12 gauge. Ballistic tests show 000 410 buckshot is effective at in-home distances, but will rapidly lose energy over distance. A 12 gauge can blast...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    I watched that video and it mainly seemed to come from a hunting perspective. He was shooting a paper target from 25 yards and didn’t shoot the meat target with buckshot. That video did demonstrate the different patterns from using the different straight rifle choke. (Albeit at 25 yards)...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    Yes, I do. Those are the reasons I bought it at the time. The more I’ve shot it, the more I think it’s a solid choice. I agree on the simplicity and reliability of the revolver action. You “could” shoot it one-handed if you had to. Much simpler than a pump.
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    Thanks Unclenunzie, just wanted to address some comments in the other thread for clarity. Mainly, the advantages of the Circuit Judge over the handgun versions. For me, I think a DA revolver platform is still simpler than a pump shotgun and more reliable. Less movements, no chance of short...
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    Circuit Judge Carbine for Home Defense

    I’ve seen some threads concerning the Circuit Judge carbine version of the Judge, that are now closed. I think there were common misconceptions that I wanted to touch on, so I’m starting this thread. It’s important to make the distinction that the Circuit Judge is the 18.5” revolving...
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