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Def... I can guarantee you if you opponent has covered the distance and the fight has started and your immediate response is to try and draw to your pistol to the retention position a trained person will jam your draw, take your gun from you, and beat you silly with it if your are lucky. The...

"Extension" Count four if you use a four count draw stroke and "Retention" is the act of compressing or bringing the weapon close to the body to avoid it from being deflected or grabbed. This should be done with both active and passive threats. Passive threats are doorways and/or objects...

Matt quit teasing...aren't we were working on a sightless class in Arizona this fall. The threat focused classes I've taught in Ohio have been a huge success. Or, wasn't I suppose to let that out of the bag.

There are several credentialed instructors teaching threat focused shooting techniques in the law enforcement community.

Smince, The important part is you are getting training, despite my personal feelings towards Suarez after the low down attack I received on another forum, his material is sound. However, there is a whole world of trainers out there that have been teaching this material for a lot longer and...

Smince...I have a simple piece of advice for you...skip the middleman and train with the best! ;)

lol...but you can always hope! ;) Hey PoPo22, How are things going down your way?

Shawn, Excellent information. I have found from instructing FOF cousres for the last ten years is that the dynamics of any FOF scenario can be manipulated to support any outcome. This is a dangerous thing all on its own and the reason behind Shawn emphasis on reality based force of force...

Interesting.... Kenbullfrog this topic was discussed in June of 2003 here on THR (police training) and you will quickly see nothing has changed since then when it comes to quality training. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=14921&page=2

Jscott, Don’t let me side track you from your debate with Mr. Phillips because you have made some very good points. Personally, Mr. Phillip’s over use of the word continuum makes my head hurt and makes me wonder why I ever coined the phrase fight and sight continuum because he has really gone...

I'm sorry that I'm coming in to this thread late but it is good to see the mindset in this thread. I also find it interesting that those of us that have been to combat tend to take the road that both threat focused (point shooting) and sighted fire techniques are necessary components of good...

Well when, I'm not sure about having a student in my class named "wbwanzer".;) In all seriousness, "7677" was my old badge number when I started posting on the shooting forums so I used it as my screen name. Although Mas Ayoob has used my real name on the shooting channel, I prefer to to...

45, I am sorry if you were offended by my quotes. My mission is to teach not offend. I have used and taught integrated shooting techniques in the military and law enforcement fields for over twenty years and people were teaching this before I came along so these concepts are not new. What I...

45, I agree with your points but I like to add some points of clarification to two of them. The 5 yard restriction is due to the fact that most people have no formal training in these areas (point shooting and movement). The students which Matt, Brownie or I have trained will tell you that...

I'm not sure if the technique he attempted to use was the problem or the fact he was not mentally prepared for the incident he stumbled into and was in the process of regaining control over his body so he could do what he was trained. I have personally observed this happen to soldiers in combat...

spwenger, No sweat...I wanted to get what you wrote on your site out there for all to see.

All things have to start someplace? I'll tell you what started me down the so called enlighten path...the fact of what I was taught in the academy did not correspond with my experience in combat, on the street, or the research I had done on LEO deaths. Since then, I have spent the last ten years...

I agree with Brownie and Matt Temkin. I have used both sighted fire and point shooting in combat. It all came down to the urgency of making the shot and the distance to the target determined which method I used. Just because you read something in a book doesn't mean you know how to do...

Redneck, I'm not the expert on CAR even thought I've had quite a bit of exposure to it. However, I seem to remember being taught to shoot CAR with and without my sights or maybe that was my understanding of it. I did not adopted CAR because it did not offer any advantage to what I was...

Affirmative on both counts and I do not agree with a lot of what Grossman said and I was one of the first people asked to review Grossman's book "On Killing". I wish I still had my write up of it to share with you. My Grandfather which saw extensive combat to include Pearl Harbor and numerous...