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Yelling police isn't going to be a big deal. Are you impersonating a police officer? If you are not flashing fake credentials, arresting people, and taking them to your private jail I don't imagine that there is enough legal liability in this tactic to worry about it. As was said previously if...

A couple of observations: The only time you are going to be able to wave-open you knife is if you are standing. The wave might open faster if you have your hand on it, and have positioned correctly in your pocket, but I don't know that it is appreciably faster to draw and get a cut on the...

This thread has started to read like the SD threads on the martial arts forums. "My Style!" "No My Style!" I don't think anyone is arguing that the dedicated study of martial arts is bad, or inferior to seminar training. It is a different approach. Martial Arts are development process, while...

Oaktown: Shooting 2 boxes of ammo is not two days of training, so that analogy falls apart. Shooting small amounts of ammo regularly is enough to retain proficiency but not enough to really improve. The problem with all of the martial arts is that if you wanted to have some self-defense...

Capacity is money in the bank for a rainy day, nothing more. How much you need depends upon how hard it is raining. A five shot revolver in the right hands is plenty of capacity against an attacker (or two) with a bit of luck. However that is a pretty thin margin. I don't mean to derail the...

Double Naught Spy: My point was not about hard and fast times for draw speed, my point was about distance covered. If the threat is closing you are going to end up with a lot of contact distance gunfights unless you are really fast or manage the situation well enough to get started early.

The deterrent value of firearms has been debated a lot on other threads. If you wait to hit the 'life or death' line you might very well be too late, conversely if you worried about escalation you are thinking about applying your firearm in situations where it is probably not appropriate...

Librarian: Your scenario makes my point. At 50' the guy with the knife is a problem, but he is not a shooting problem yet. Realistically there are probably a number of non-shooting solutions available at 50' but if we screw those up we get a gunfight at 10'. Even at 50' you should probably get...

Mercop: It is certainly *not* the 'first system for gun fighting first and not target shooting.' Consider the point shooting systems of WWII. The OSS had a system and target shooting wasn't it's focus. In terms of speed and accuracy, the conventional method for evaluation is some variation of...

Good work on the armed citizen evaluation. Librarian. I think this is a question of methodology. If you have an aggressor at 50', but don't take any action and he closes to 10' before you shot him did you have a successful 10' gunfight or a screwed up 50' gunfight? When does the fight start...

JohnKSa: The only thing that the Tueller drill ("21 Rule") actually established was that most people can move about 14 ft. per second. The video has a guy standing there for 10 seconds making pre-assaultive gestures for about ten seconds prior to his sub-second attack. The video makes a great...

I would choose which ever functions the best in your handgun. The differences between Hydra-Shok, Gold Dot, etc. are trivial as far as self-defense is concerned. None of the premium JHP ammo has significant expansion under *all* conditions. All of the better brands will expand (at least some)...

The best survival system I have seen. One key point the author makes is what the intended mission is. He defined what scenarios he thinks he needs to prepare for. Most of the gear is multi-use and is handy in most environments.

Seriously, I would avoid that bozo like the plague. The last thing you want is for somebody to think that he is your buddy. Option 0: Leave. Option 1: Say 'excuse me' and find somewhere else to be until he makes friends with somebody else. Option 2: Introduce him to somebody you don't like...

Look a bandwagon!!!! Seriously, having been on the internet since the rec.guns days, the "tactics list" and having seen how bad it can get, I really appreciate this forum. Without moderation the combination of the internet, firearms, stupidity, and heat will turn every exchange into simple...

So I looked at his website, and his online videos. I see him use a point shooting technique really fast. I am not seeing what his hits look like (all the targets are pre-shot) and I am not seeing any shooting from more than a few feet away. I am not calling BS, because I don't have any exposure...

Verbal commands. "Intruder, the police have been called and are on their way! Get out of here now! I am armed, if you come down the hallway/up stairs/whatever you will be shot! Leave the house now!"

I think this thread has run it's ridiculous course. Those that are opposed to seeking training seem to think they have a monopoly on mindset, and that they have some unique perspective that flies in the face of the conventional wisdom. It is simply hubris to take the stand that all this training...

So all of the people with guns and no training that manage to win the day is proof that there is no need for training? What about all of the people with guns and no training that choke, miss, and get hurt, prosecuted, or killed? Sure the majority of armed citizen encounters with bad guys tends...

The training conspiracy theory is nonsense. Without training you will always be limited to a certain level of performance. People are certainly capable of inventing self-defense techniques, tactics, and associated products. In many cases they are re-inventing the wheel and re-inventing it...