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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    Let me regale you with my experiences with ammunition company representatives. Half the time they don't give you an answer at all. One quarter of the time they give you some BS answer cause either they don't know or are trying to hide "proprietary information" -- company secrets. One quarter of...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    Yes, I did weigh about 10 Israeli FC 9mm LUGER cases for an average weight. I wonder what I did with that figure. I've got a whole bunch of IMI cases. Should weigh the same. While I'm still logged in, a couple of random thoughts: .*I*. -- The dot star I star dot (Speer-made Independence brand...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    FC -- .FC. 9MM LUGER is Speer extruded and should weigh 60gr plus/minus 1 gr. Regular Federal-made FC cases (drawn, flat head) should weigh an average easy-to-remember 55.55gr -- I've weighed thousands of 'em. The presumably Speer-made FC (no dots, extruded, donut head) cases also should weigh...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    .FC. -- Long before ATK acquired both Speer/CCI and Federal Cartridges, Speer was making cases for Federal and Federal was making cases for Speer. Speer pioneered the extrusion - FORMAX - method of making brass cases, different from the standard drawing method of making brass cases. Speer makes...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    Same Quality -- You have to understand that the largest part of Winchester's production is for military, police, and, for lack of a better term, "homeland security" contracts. Although Winchester has had problems with consistent product, it would be crazy -- business-wise -- for any reason...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    WCC -- Is, of course, the abbreviation for Western Cartridge Company. But its also the "code" for military and police ammunition produced at the East Alton, Illinois, factory whether by Western, Winchester, or Winchester-Western. Nor does it mean that all the components were made at the East...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    First of several topics: Olin -- Yes, it should be referred to as Olin ammunition but Winchester is the more recognized brand name by far. On 1 Jan 1931 Frank Olin, owner of the Western Cartridge Company of East Alton, Illinois, formalized his acquisition of the bankrupt Winchester Repeating...
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    Winchester - Olin, Headstamp question

    Winchester ammunition production is moving from East Alton, Illinois, to Oxford, Mississippi. They started in 2012 and didn't happen all at once. First was their 9mm Luger production as evidenced by their frangible load 9mm cases having the headstamp WMA 12, whereas before that they were WCC 11...
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    Hornady brass

    IMtheNRA -- To whom are you addressing your question?
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    Hornady brass

    Yes, nowadays Hornady does make most of their own brass. Wasn't always so. When they first started out, they reloaded cases like military 30-06. Later they started loading Federal- and Winchester-made FRONTIER-head stamped cases. Of the types I've been able to identify, they also used...
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    Any Advantage to Using Small Primer 45 Auto?

    Taking into account a lower muzzle velocity with small pistol primers, I added .2gr more powder to those cases and ran the test again. There was a small increase in accuracy compared to large pistol primed cases, which isn't surprising considering the large pistol primers group was SO AWFUL...
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    Any Advantage to Using Small Primer 45 Auto?

    I ask because I've hundreds of SPEER, BLAZER, and Speer-made (dot) FEDERAL (dot) 45 Auto cases. We endlessly discuss if it matters but I don't recall if anybody found an advantage to using small primer 45 Auto. In my own comparison of BLAZER small primer against (dot) FEDERAL (dot) large primer...
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    9mm 124gn Gold Dot with strange head stamps

    Check out the lot numbers in this Speer recall notice and look for the pattern: J26Gxx to J30Gxx (September 2001) K01Gxx to K31Gxx (October 2001) L01Gxx to L30Gxx (November 2001) M01Gxx to M31Gxx (December 2001) A01Hxx to A31Hxx (January 2002) B01Hxx to B28Hxx (February 2002) C01Hxx to C31Hxx...
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    Aluminum 45 ACP cases

    When I experimented with reloading 9mm and 45 Auto aluminum cases some years ago, I found my standard loads developed less muzzle velocity -- about 1/6th, roughly 15% -- when used with aluminum cases. Also half the 9mm cases split and most of the 45 Auto cases stovepiped if they cycled at all. I...
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    9mm 124gn Gold Dot with strange head stamps

    The cases are the same, the headstamps are different. Those on the right were made for Speer's French National Police contract, and indicate lot 001 of 2016. That corresponds nicely with the lot number which equates to January 1st, 2016. They appear to have not-nickel-plated CCI primers, which...
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    how long are primers good for?

    Thanks IRONWORKERWILL. To see what I did with those primers, see mdshooters.com, forum, reloading, and search "dating Federal primers". As a primer collector, I'm caught in and endless cycle: the more I find out, the more I realize the vastness of what I don't know. Currently I use 60 year-old...
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    collectible powder cans and primer boxes

    OK, having looked into this at the annual cartridge collectors show in St. Louis, there basically is no market for old powder. The empty tins may have value, but once the powder starts breaking down it can eat out the metal and make the tin worthless. Use the powder, sell the tin separately for...
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    how long are primers good for?

    Laphroaig-- Your box of Remington 8 1/2 primers is earlier than you think. Since their primer lot numbering systems are different from their ammunition lot numbers, which I can equate to a specific date, I can only give you the following timeframes. Remington introduced nickeled primers between...
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    Loading 7.5x55swiss

    45.0gr IMR4895 with a 168gr Sierra HPBT works best in all three of my Schmidt-Rubins, and is just a hand-full of fps from Swiss military ammo (GP11).
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    Berdan Primer Reloading Problem

    OK, I wasn't satisfied with just a qualitative answer (did it go boom), so I reran some tests to get quantitative answers (hard numbers). 1. I re-reloaded the 12 Iranian cases that previously wouldn't go off and 8 that did, neck sizing all. I measured the primer seating depth of all, which...
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