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Thanks for proving my point.

So KRS your saying the 65 and 64 use different frames? Or are you saying you would argue the fact that the sun came up this morning. And just so you know if you want to quote someone at least use the quote= and then people know who your quoting. I shouldn't have to tell you that since you...

KRS you mean this one that I did get my information from. The question was could he shoot 38 +P which I said he could and noted it was made on the same frame that 357's are. Now I'm just dealing with a pissing match of stupidity for my statement which is correct.

Brian you mean like the one that didn't know to check the strain screw length knowing that some smiths have been shortening them for as long as I can remember? Over the years I have seen some real hacks out there, if you can't fix it yourself or don't know for sure your smith knows what he is...

OldFuff forgive me, you are wise beyond your years I'm sure. I'm sure these guys at wolff are all wrong, how dare they sell different springs. Maybe you should email them and tell them how wrong they are to change things they shouldn't. Remember just because it isn't for you doesn't make it...

krs the 65 was actually built off the model 13 or so says the smith and wesson catalog says. But the fact that the 64 and 65 use the same frame remains the same, same size, same material which is what my point was.

gwalchnai so your saying that the 65 which is 357 is built on a different frame? Sometimes the responses here seem so trivial it's hard to even give them merit. The 65 and 64 are the same frame with different cylinders, one 357 and one 38, the 64 is not built after the model 10 because it was...

Well I have to ask if you have been to the smith and wesson factory? For the most part it is lines of cnc machines and very little hand fitting goes into the current production guns. But how dare I disagree that the gun can be improved on, we all know that assembly line guns are as good as they...

Your telling me your gunsmith didn't check the strain screw length for a missfire problem? I suggest you find a real gunsmith. I have been polishing ramps and adjusting my own strain screw lengths and changing springs for years. Never have missfires and I have some guns that are butter smooth...

As far as ballistics go your only talking about 15% difference between those two barrel lengths. For back packing you don't want the extra weight of an already very heavy gun IMHO. As long as you can hunt with a 4" gun in your area it is the best all around barrel you can get IMHO.

As others say the 64 will handle 38 +P without problem. They were over built 38's made on the K frame for 357's and most came with the heavy duty barrels. I have a pair of them that did service with Brinks for many years before I got them.

624 and 24 is probably the most known. I really like the 696 that is built on the L frame though.

Twoclones if I got another one or did it again I would get the 4". The recoil isn't bad at all, mostly because the gun weighs almost 8 pounds.

Have you tried shooting a different brand of ammunition?

I own one in 8 3/8 inch. If I had it to do over again the gun wouldn't be my first choice. It is very accurate and one hell of a hand canon but the cost to shoot the gun prevents me from taking it to the range often. Here is a short video of me shooting my 500...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, IMHO the python has nothing on an N frame in terms of looks.

To do it right you would need to file the tip of the strain screw down so that it gives the pressure you desire but as others mention that will lead to missfires if you go too far. Leaving it loose is not the way to do it.

Personally I think the python is a little over rated. Mine still shoots great but got pretty loose so it's at colt right now getting the end shake fixed and timing repaired. Never had those kind of issues with my N frames.

Recessed cylinders really have no advantage, that is just to myth to say they are any stronger. It was the discovery that they did nothing that stopped everyone from producing them. There were several changes over the years to the newest versions of both 29 and 629 such as stronger cylinder...

It's amazing to me, they have the same action as a trooper or mkIII and nothing like the python. IMHO the trigger pull is too long and not smooth at all but they are still getting a higher price. Of course I also think the python is over rated also. Don't get me wrong I like mine but I put it in...