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Walther P99AS

Walther P99AS or PPQ, used HK USP or P2000

I do not think you will see a large military contract for 1911 pistols, now or in the future. Any 1911's or other .45 ACP pistols will remain a speciality item for a small number of units.

From the tabs I've kept on things, what I've seen and experienced, first hand reports, etc. I will say HK first and then Walther, picked Walther for the poll since HK was not available. These are the most consistent in reliability and durability the past 15 years and current - least amount of...

They definitely do have some benefit - depends on game, person, how they treat it, etc.

Maybe look at doing the E2 conversion that a lot of people rave about. I think I've seen a kit to do it on your own for $50 or less. EDIT: one of the spots, not sure if it is in stock or not... https://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail.aspx?PartNumber=SIG-GRIPKIT-226-E2

Just putting 800 FMJ rounds through it to ensure the pistol really is reliable and won't have any problems (most recommend 1,000 rounds) - about $400 for .357 SIG or 10mm Add another $90+ to test function with your chosen HP round and have two mags loaded with it ready for carry. Put that...

If it's just for a range/fun gun you can just fondle both (hopefully shoot also) and go with your gut. If it's for carry or primary firearm for home defense, there is no contest - go with what is proven and recommended by professionals. Stack the odds in your favor as much as possible.

A lot of misinformation in this thread - much of it debunked years ago, but some how still kicking and being passed around as factual or relevant.

They are hooking themselves up with nice guns every 3 years or so, easy case to solve. A couple years from now they will order up some M&P45's or HK45's and sell off the current issue to themselves for $200-300.

You can get a USP Tactical used around $800-900. Basically a more realistically sized and priced MK23 (not exactly though). It will fulfill that itch and have accuracy and reliability that is as good as it gets.

Thank you for being so descriptive - nice review and follow-up posts

My way to decide on a firearm - Have a budget, make a list of the ones which have a stellar reputation, desired features, have great personal experience with, etc. that fit within the budget. Whether the budget is $500, $800, or $1,200 - pretend as if every make/model is the same price. Get...

I think it's fair - why not go with the best odds when choosing about a product that might save your life one day?

This is how most of them do it :)

"Reliability being key..." Same rec's as chieftain with priority going to 1. HK any caliber and model you wish with LEM trigger 2. 9mm - Glock 17 or 19 3. .40 or .45 - M&P series.

A, E, D, C, B - a different Hi-Power would take first though.

1. Used HK USP Compact 2. Used HK USP 3. New or used M&P45 or Glock 21SF 4. XD-45 with a bunch of magazines and a lot of testing of said magazines.

mbruce, you are right. This is why Glock put pistols in LE holsters for dirt cheap. Todd Green is one of the top trainers and consultants in the business. Used to be the head trainer at the SIG Academy and worked and is well known. People thinking HK pistols are over-priced and not knowing...

JShirley, the people who use the pistols for what they are designed for have a very high opinion of them. For every 3 gunner/gun store owner/internet debater who doesn't like them, I'm sure there is another one that does. Some people forget these things are weapons first and foremost. All the...