000 buckshot for home defense

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Couple of opinions: 1. Birdshot is for birds. It will create a shallow surface wound that will bleed but generally not incapacate, unless fired at contact range and the shot column acts like a single projectile.
2. Mixing loads in a magazine is a very very bad idea. The legal aftermath of any SD shooting does not stop with the criminal investigation, in which the good guy is usally exonerated(if he acted legally and in good faith), but with the civil suit that WILL ensue later. At that point you will be asked about the loads you used, and no matter which load was up first you will have a hard time telling about how birdshot is not as lethal as buckshot, but you used buck nevertheless, or vice versa. That is of course is if you can remember under the stress of an actuasl shooting which round was where in the mag. This is why every major LE agency and the military specifically prohibit mixing of loads in the mag. Some even prohibit the carrying of different loads on the person of the shooter. This is to keep things tidy for the legal aftermath. If a pro carries more than one load (almost always slugs and buckshot) he is very careful not to mix loads in the gun.
The concept of having buck for up close and slugs for use as the range opens is never a good idea for the HD shooter, because if the range is opening, then the danger is almost always diminishing and his right to use lethal force is also diminishing.
As stated above the spread of buck at HD ranges is minimal-this is why you CAN miss with your shotgun! Unless you live in a real mansion, you are never going to get more than a 12-18" spread indoors.
I have used all kinds of buck-including 0000(thats right 4 zeros) in my Browning BPS 10 gauge 3.5" magnum modified for tactical use. I prefer either #4 buck or 00 buck. For indoors I use #4 , inside my boat I use #1 buck, and if outdoors is a consideration it is 00. I would use 0000 buck outdoors in my 10 gauge, but as the gun holds only 4 rounds, and I can usually only get off 2 of them before I chicken out from either recoil or flash, I stick to 12 gauge. I did buy a box of 3.5" magnum slugs, I still have 23 of them left. And I won't be shooting them anytime soon unless I am manning a road block and expecting an armored vehicle.
Think about it, birdshot is intended for critters weighing how much? Buckshot is intended for critters weighing about the same as a human. Expect results accordingly.
 
Jack2427, 3 inch magnum slugs from winchester produces a hell of a kick, a firestorm and a solid smack onto that back wall of the indoor range. Believe it or not, there are even larger loads availible in slug form with greater energy. The recoil at about 1750 fps is about all I can handle without being blown down. But, for some stupid reason, I find it FUN.

But I fear certain rounds might be capable of spalling through the back wall of the range, and Im not going to try to shoot those. The ballistics involve have numbers very high in value with enormous forces involved.

However, when giggles wear off and I consider ammunition in the house, triple ooo or double ought plus nuetered slugs are going to do the work just fine.

Fair warning though for those who never fired magnum slugs, you are going to have your senses stunned and stagger a bit. Either you will never fire another one again or you learn to absorb the blow and stay on target. There is no shame.

However. That being said, the rifle folks firing large long guns are no slouches either, it's just interesting when they see me with a shottie and feel the blast several bays over. I try to keep several empty bays between the mag rounds and any other shooter.

Those things leave channels through gel so large and long, it is right to feel a tinge of fear when you see something like that being tested.
 
rcmodel,
THANK YOU!
I thought I'd seen everything on Brassfetcher's site.
Can't imagine how I missed that, but, oh well. At least I know now why I'm not a detective. :D
Thank you again as I'd been wanting to see testing results on 000 for quite awhile.
 
I use double-ought. 12-ga developed its reputation as a man-stopper based on 00 BUckshot in a 2-3/4in shell at full standard velocity.

specifically, I use Winchester Military shells (from MidwayUSA), a standard 00 load in a dark green hull with black metal.
 
but with the civil suit that WILL ensue later.

I am happy to live in a state where one can not sue for injury recieved in the comission of a felony.

I agree that mixing loads is a bad practice. I have 00 reduced recoil buckshot and a spare (box) mag of slugs. It has plenty of power to do its job at any distane in my house and with my circumstances over pentration is not a huge concern.
 
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