1100 Problems

[pdh]

My Rem 1100 is malfuctioning and I cannot figure it out....
What it is doing is.......the shells are coming out of the mag...carrier sending it up to get chambered...but when malfuctioning...the shell only chambers halfway....you have to bump the bolt into battery.......These are on low brass shells.......Low gas pressure?????????????????
Went over everything I know to do...The mag tube only had a very light coat of oil(just for rust preventative)...put in new o-ring. I did not clean out the gas ports though.....before this shooting outing.....Anyone has any ideas?
I need a rem 1100 doctor........

 

[creekerdoug]

I'm not a shotgun doctor but I do have a 1100. I would clean the gun completely (gas ports also) and make sure you reassemble it correctly. My 1100 is a little picky about which low wall rounds it likes. Try some different brands of low wall stuff to see what your gun works well with. If it is a new gun run; a couple of boxes of hi wall rounds through it. It may help to break it in if it is a new one. Good luck.

 

[pdh]

Thanks for your reply......my 1100 was bought in the early 80's. The shotgun could have then and will now pass the white glove test....I was shooting sporting clays and using low brass in remington and winchester shells. After the sporting clays we went after the pheasants and I was using high brass. Did not shoot that much then...four or five shells...did not malfuction then......Are they picky with low brass shells??????????????

 

[Milkmaster]

Sounds like the gas ports are clean if the spent shell completely ejects. IF you shoot it a lot between cleanings or if you get the gun hot while shooting, check to see if you have plastic built up in the barrell. Sometimes a hot barrell will get a little build up off the plastic hulls in the chamber area that makes a fresh shell fit a bit tight.

If the gun is a recent Remington, make sure you have cleaned all of the preservative out of the barrel. I am hearing several new Remmy owners saying that pumps are hard to cycle and/or semi autos won't load the shell all the way because they did not clean the gun as the instruction manual states before using it. You got to get all of the preservative out of the thing when it is new.

I don't know if either of these suggestions are the case for you. Both are worth about what you paid for them. A good cleaning as stated above would be the first step I would take. Have fun and a Merry Xmas!

 

[ants]

Hi, pdh. I'm no gunsmith, so all my suggestions are from personal experience:

Often when there is a problem with the gas system, it won't eject the spent shotshell (because the lack of gas pressure doesn't push the bolt all the way back). It's possible that it is a gas system problem, but keep your eyes open elsewhere at the same time.

Clean the recoil spring tube, the bolt, and everything else in the receiver. I once had a #7-1/2 shot stuck between the bolt and the receiver housing. Do you have complete teardown instructions? Keeping the trigger group in one piece, it's easy to remove everything for cleaning and lubrication (and inspection).

Get another box of shotshells and try cycling it manually. See if it chambers them every time.

 

[pdh]

Thanks again for the help guys!...She will eject the empties fine...but the shell out of the magazine just partically chambers.
I have had the shotgun completely tore down for cleaning....I am a clean freak...she is cleaned after every shooting outing..I have not messed with the recoil spring tube though...I use ezzox on the trigger group for lube....wipe out inside the reciever with lightly oiled rag...very lighty oil the magazine tube.....

 

[Pete409]

She will eject the empties fine...but the shell out of the magazine just partically chambers.

If the shell coming out of the magazine gets lifted up by the carrier and the bolt then partially shoves the shell into the chamber, then I'm nearly certain that the problem is with the recoil spring as suggested by Ants.

At a minimum, the recoil spring should be removed and the tube and spring cleaned and oiled and reassembled. Since the springs only cost about $5 to $8, you might just go ahead and replace it while you're at it. They need replaced occasionally anyway.

To remove the spring, you need to remove the buttstock and then remove the plug from the end of the recoil spring tube. Be careful because the spring is compressed and will fly out when the plug is removed. Wear safety glasses. If you have any difficulty getting the plug out, you may need to apply a little heat to the plug to soften the Blue Loctite that is often used on the threads. A wooden kitchen match or a cigarette lighter waved under the plug for 10-15 seconds will do the trick.

 

[pdh]

Thanks there Pete....sounds good...I will do as you instructed...

 

[Scoupe]

Another possibility is a slightly bent shell lifter, although that usually results in a "stubbed" shell, not a partially inserted round.

If the recoil spring doesn't pan out, you might look at the lifter.

 

[pdh]

Ok....thanks

 

[Pete409]

PDH,

If you order a new recoil spring, it would be a good idea to order a new magazine spring too. They are easy to replace.

On the 1100, the magazine spring serves a very important role. Not only does it push the rounds out of the magazine, it must push them hard enough to trip the carrier release. If it doesn't have enough force coming out of the magazine to trip the carrier release, then the new round will just sit there on the carrier and the bolt will stay locked back.

 

[pdh]

Sounds good to me.....if I have any questions...I will give you guys a holler..........

Thanks

 

[3pairs12]

My moms 100 will not eject AA superlites. And has been picky withother light loads as well.

 

[Quigley]

Rem 1100 cures

Totally disassemble and clean with a good solvent, replace the piston o-ring, these tend to get hard and brittle very rapidly. I change my 1100's o-ring every couple of years or 100 rounds. If you wish to continue to shoot low brass non magnum loads I suggest taking the barrel to a gun smith and have him drill a second gas port right next to the origional, I know several trap shooters that have done this modification. Due to the angle of the port and the hardness of the steele I do not recomend you attemt this on your own as you will surely break your drill bit off in the port.

 

[Pete409]

I change my 1100's o-ring every couple of years or 100 rounds.

Every 100 rounds???? Many O-rings have gone several thousand rounds without being changed and still functioned well.

If you wish to continue to shoot low brass non magnum loads I suggest taking the barrel to a gun smith and have him drill a second gas port right next to the origional, I know several trap shooters that have done this modification.

I don't recall the original poster saying that the gun was a Magnum gun. Unless it is a 3" Magnum gun, it should already have 2 gas holes.

Due to the angle of the port and the hardness of the steele I do not recomend you attemt this on your own as you will surely break your drill bit off in the port

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Hmmm, I opened up the size of the holes slightly in MY 1100 without breaking any bits or getting anything stuck.

 

[kirbythegunsmith]

Details

My input would be that any port opening being done should not be more than one number drill size, as I have verified with the prime go-to guy at the Remington service in Ilion NY.

It is best to do just one hole, then test, rather than automatically drilling both holes open.

In severe cases, the use of 2 o-rings is another trick to improve cycling slightly.
Bet you hadn't heard that before.

Don't expect 1100's to cycle the lo-recoil loads, and any light target loads may be dicey, and any converting for that use will cause excess cycling when used with heavy loads. The mechanism is surprisingly forgiving of a little pounding, but Remington does say that their target barrels are not for use with any heavy loads (certainly no high brass)

Keep those points in mind before you grab the drill.

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[SDC]

Is this a brand-new shotgun, or have you fired it successfully before? I've seen this happen when putting on a side-saddle shell carrier, because the sides of the receiver get pinched in just enough to retard the movement of the bolt slightly.

 

[Pete409]

Post #3 answers your questions.

...my 1100 was bought in the early 80's.

 

[pdh]

So...if I understand correctly.....shooting the low brass...7 1/2 shot...will more than likely cause this type of mafunction that I am experiencing?

Also.....I have a gunsmith that I can take it to...to change the recoil spring and mag spring...but if I decide to do the job myself..I can order the parts off remington or Numricks?..I do still have the manual...
Thanks

 

[Pete409]

So...if I understand correctly.....shooting the low brass...7 1/2 shot...will more than likely cause this type of mafunction that I am experiencing?

No. Shooting low brass shells of ANY shot size will not CAUSE this problem.

Also.....I have a gunsmith that I can take it to...to change the recoil spring and mag spring...but if I decide to do the job myself..I can order the parts off remington or Numricks?..I do still have the manual...

There are several sources where you can order the replacement springs. A well stocked gunsmith may even have some of them on hand since they are so common.

Most people with just a slight amount of "do it yourself" ability can do the necessary parts changing. But, if you don't want to do it for some reason, take it to a gunsmith. The total time involved for a gunsmith to do the work should be less than one hour, in my opinion.

 

[pdh]

Pete...thank you and the rest for all your input and help. I will go ahead...get the parts and get to work on it.

My other shotgun is beretta 390....I am using it now...so I am in no hurry of getting my remmy fixed....probably in a couple weeks or so.....

Again...if I have any questions I will give you guys a holler.....

Thanks and "Merry Christmas" to all.....Paul

 

[Quigley]

Pete409

If we were playing hockey I'd say you just checked me into the glass...

Yes I change my piston o-ring every 2 years or thats right 100 rounds. I left out the fact that my 1100 is a slug gun. I do not choose to wait for the o-ring to fail I repalce it so I do not have to worry about it ruining my hunt. I have never had one fail either go figure.

I did not break any bits off in a barrel nor have I ever drilled one out, I was simply passing on what a co-shooter had done with his non-magnum 1100. It worked great for him and he had no more issues with cycling.