1911 barrel fit

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Ok i have a brand new springfield loaded 1911 9 mm and have aout 200 rounds through it so far. One little problem is every 20 or so shots the slide doesnt close completely and needs a little nudge to close. Also noted is some barrel to bushing wear and several people that looked at it said there should never be wear on the barrel. I called springfield and they said the flare on the barell is normal and so is the wear, and that it needs 3-500 rounds to break in. Im torn now between sending it in before shooting any more, and just putting some more rounds through it. What do you think?
 

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Can you feel any wear? or just see it? Does your barrel hood spring up when you push on it?
 
That is a bad picture...but it doesn't look like barrel "wear", it looks like the bushing is marking the barrel some, which is normal.

And the failure to go into battery...sounds like a slightly tight extractor (along with the bushing wearing in), you could adjust it...or just shoot it some more...it will likely "wear in" before long.


Most 1911's do require some break in...whether its a $2000 version, or a $400 version makes no difference. My Baer for example, when new it was all kinds of fussy...and would only run with the very best mags (Tripps in my case)...after about 1,000 rounds it straightened up, and now that its had over 20,000 rounds through it...you can't make it choke no matter what mags you use.
 
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It looks like (yes poor picture) the bushing to barrel fit is a bit snug. Shoot it in. Apply some lapping compound on the barrel and hand cycle a bunch of times.

Because the barrel slides in the bushing, it's going to rub some. Put thousands of rounds down the pipe and soon enough you'll be looking for a new barrel and bushing to get that nice snug fit again. It's a vicious cycle.
 
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Apply a little gun grease to that area, lugs, end of slide/muzzle opening and on inner area of bushing..

Looks like it's just dry metal on metal contact/and friction issue

Should solve the on-occasion need to nudge her shut..

OMMV


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You just have a snug barrel to bushing fit......which is good. Its normal for a good tight target gun.
Oil it there a little and the slide rails too before you shoot it and that alone may stop it. If not, try a tad stronger recoil spring, they're cheap. Normal for a 9mm is 14lbs for a 1911. Some come with weaker than that from the factory. This will make it run 100%, I'll put $$$ on it.

I bet if you call Springfield, they send you a stronger recoil spring free.
 
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What you're seeing is normal and has nothing to do with the occasional failure to go into battery. The round is dragging on the extractor hook or breechface or the chamber is a little tight (or dirty). Keep the barrel lubed at the bushing and rear lugs. You should call Springfield and describe the feed problem and see what they want to do about it.
 
Clean it, lubricate it properly, and shoot it some more. If the problem persists after a normal break in period, send it in for warranty service.
 
It's not a problem.

Every 1911 match barrel in the world shows scuff marks if the bushing even halfway fits the barrel.

Oil will help, but regardless of that, it is normal & won't get any worse.

rc
 
What you're seeing is normal and has nothing to do with the occasional failure to go into battery. The round is dragging on the extractor hook or breechface or the chamber is a little tight (or dirty). Keep the barrel lubed at the bushing and rear lugs. You should call Springfield and describe the feed problem and see what they want to do about it.
Like i said in first post i called springfield And they said the barrel fit was likely what was keeping the slide from fully closing and i just needed to shoot 3-500 rounds through it for break in. I should be able to get the remainder of 500 through it tomorrow as long as i can keep myself from spending too much time shooting the brand new colt gold cup 1911 i bought today. Did i tell you i love the 1911?
 
ok i put another 200 rounds through her yesterday and she only had one issue with the slide not closing all the way so its getting better. but im thinking it is the extractor and not the barrell fit. will this get better by shooting or will it have to be sent in?
The gun shoots really nice.:cool:
 
You can tune the extractor quite easily - there are instructions with pics all over the web. A good set by Bill Wilson are halfway down the tech page here ...
http://www.m1911.org/full_technic.htm

You might also check that the ejector is not rubbing the slide as the friction will slow the return to battery. Get a few recoil springs as well - my SA arrived with a 10# recoil spring ... I'd suggest you order a few heavier springs (111 - 13) and try them as well.

/Bryan
 
Don't mess with the extractor, please! You said it yourself, the malfunctions are getting less common. Your pistol is new and going through it's break-in! Make sure to keep the slide and barrel/bushing, oiled, and be sure to put a drop or two of oil on the front of the barrel hood, so it seeps down into the locking lugs. This is a spot that alot of people forget!
 
At this stage I wouldn't put money on any specific area being THE problem. Taken as a whole you could be seeing a combination of tight bushing, new recoil spring and heavier than (relative to other makes) standard main spring (ILS).

It's good advice to oil the lugs and barrel to retard wear and ensure smooth function. Let us know how many "break-in" rounds that Gold Cup needs in comparison.
 
Constrictor said:
they said the barrel fit was likely what was keeping the slide from fully closing and i just needed to shoot 3-500 rounds through it for break in.

Do you have a Springfield or a Kimber? :D Just kidding ...

I fitted a new Ed Brown barrel bushing in a Dan Wesson Valor (about 0.002" clearance) and I had to tap the slide forward a few times during the first 200 rounds or so. I haven't had to do that for a while though.
 
My Les Baer was so tight that you needed to pound the thing open almost!! It now cycles beautifully..and by far is the best handgun I own. Just oil her up..and shoot her! It'll break in. It's hard to really determine what issues there may be with such a new gun...but after you've shot it a few hundred rounds..then you can start isolating issues.
 
If that is a blued barrel outer surface it IS going to wear away from rubbing on the bushing.
 
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