2 x 4's Shot Shells

[Bravo11]

I have a couple of boxes of shotgun shells that are called 2 x 4's
I'm not sure of the manufacturer(I'm at work and shells at home).
The shells combine No.2 shot and No.4 shot, both steel, and came in a smaller box 5 to 8 rounds. Shells were black on the brass and camo green on the plastic. I bought them a few years ago for duck hunting.
Anyone familiar with these and know if you can still buy them?

 

[Dave McCracken]

I have some in 4X6, turkey loads. Remington lists the 4X6 in the 04 catalog. No 2X4s or other setups....

Tests going back to the 30s show great patterns and effects with duplex loads. If the larger pellets are on top of the load, the greater mass and inertia of these help keep speed up on the smaller pellets and the shot string is shorter. That means more pellets hit at the same time, greater whack to the stack...

 

[Bravo11]

Maybe they are 4x6, I'll have to check later. I'll look at the Rem stuff online.
Thanks

 

[HSMITH]

Those are in fact Remingtons, and are pretty sorry shotshells. Remington field loads in lead and steel are not worth shooting. Make DARN sure the pellets haven't rusted into a glob before shooting them or you will have one very hurting shotgun.

 

[labgrade]

Main problem I ever had with the Duplex-Loads was patterning = they didn't very well pattern reagrds to some simple Win#4 1-7/8s & Fed Premium #4s 2oz. But that's in my my shotty, & YMMV.

I could never find out what distribution the #shot size was = how many #6 versus how many #4s .... no matter really, 'cause they never really patterned worth a darn anyways.

Besades, all the Duplex loads cost way more than anything which actually performed much better.

Betcha your best bet would be to blow off any of the duplex-stuff, just pattern a decent #4, if going for turkeys,or anyhing else heavy.

Any load, 2-3/4sof #4s, or a magnum, that pattern swell in your chosen choke, is about as good as you'll get.

Personally, I use the Fed Premium, #4 shot = 2 oz in my Rem Turkey choke.
Shoots tight as all get out - but that's just mine - has a huge rating for complete turkey kills, & has done so.

I'd suggest trying a few others though.

My second best is The Win 1-7/8 ounce load of #4s & about $12-14/box of 25 (about 1/3 the price of the Fed Premiums). A very good bet for cost effectiveness. I ended buying about 2 cases of this stuff just because its relatively cheap, packs a goodly punch for anything you'd want a shot gun to do, & it patterns pretty well in any of my full or modified chookes - a very good all-round heavy load.

Whatever.

Buy a few 5-packs & pattern for your choke.

If you lke the results, buy more of it & use it, but I'd betcha that there's some off-the-shelf stuff that will work just as well - & for 1/2-1/3 the price. You just have to play some.

 

[Dave McCracken]

It just goes to show how much variance we can expect in ammo and shotguns.

The Duplex load patterned very nicely with an extended .675" choke tube in Frank's bunty barrel.

Second place, a 1 1/4 oz, 2 3/4" Remington Long Range load of 6s. Way less pellets, but almost as many where it counts on turkeys.

Third place, and a distant third at that, was another heavy load.

5 rounds each for testing on turkey head and neck targets, 35 yards.