270 Weatherby Magnum vs 270 Winchester Recoil...

[marksman13]

I’ve got a chance to add a few more Ruger No. 1s to the safe. One of which is a 270 Weatherby. I already have a 270 Win and a 257 Weatherby Magnum. I don’t have a real “need” for the 270 Roy, but I could probably fulfill all my hunting needs with half the No. 1s I own, so need isn’t really a factor.

Main question is about perceived recoil of the 270 Weatherby vs the 270 Win. I realize that with the laws of physics, the Weatherby is going to have more recoil, but what does it compare to? Am I looking at 7mm Rem Mag recoil? More? Less? Anybody shoot both whom can give me some comparisons. Any noticeable difference in performance on deer sized game?

 

[Riomouse911]

Is it Chuck Hawks that has a recoil table that shows projected recoil amounts for various cartridges and loads?

Just a thought...

Stay safe.

 

[marksman13]

Is it Chuck Hawks that has a recoil table that shows projected recoil amounts for various cartridges and loads?

Just a thought...

Stay safe.

Yeah. I’ve perused that table a time or two. Good info for sure. I just wanted some first hand accounts if possible because this place is an absolute wealth of knowledge.

 

[Riomouse911]

My 7mm Rem model 70 is like shooting a .30-06 bolt gun, the .270 Weatherby should be similar. (Maybe a bit less?)

If you can handle the .30-06, you’ll be ok with the .270 Weatherby.

Stay safe.

 

[LoonWulf]

270wby/7rem/264win/30-06 all feel about the same with me.
The 270 win feels a little lighter. But not enough to matter

 

[jmr40]

Plug in the numbers here and get hard numbers.

ShootersCalculator.com | Recoil Calculator

It is easy to fool the brain. Some guns are louder and that makes you think they kick more than they do. Most people just expect to get hit harder with anything with "magnum" on the headstamp and swear it kicks harder than it really does. Rifle weight matters, a typical 270 mag rifle will usually be at least 1/2 lb heavier than a typical 270 so that evens things out a lot. And stock design matters. Using a calculator like the one above assumes the same stock.

Just playing with some numbers a 270 win loaded with 150 gr bullets @2950 fps using 59 gr of powder from an 8 lb rifle would generate 21.5 ft lbs recoil. That's about the same as a hot loaded 30-06.

With the 270 WBY loaded with 150 gr bullets at 3150 fps using 72 gr of powder recoil will be about 27.5 ft lbs recoil from an 8 lb rifle. That is a little less than typical 300 WM recoil.

But if we go with a more realistic 8.5 lb rifle firing the 270 WBY load recoil is closer to 25.8 ft lbs. Pretty much splitting the difference between 30-06 and 300 WM.

Most people can't tell the difference between 2 different guns within 3-4 ft lbs recoil. When you start getting 5 lbs more then most people can feel the difference and you have to get 7-8 ft lbs difference before the difference is objectionable.

If you can handle 20-21 ft lbs then you can probably handle 27-28, but you'll notice the difference. If you've spent a lot of time shooting 308 class loads at around 15-18 ft lbs then a 270 WBY will be close to double the recoil and it could be a problem.

 

[Oldschool shooter]

Another thing I've found in regards to felt recoil that has a noticable effect is stock design. My Savage 110 in 7 mag kicks like a mule. My buddy has a Ruger 77 in 300 Win Mag with a straighter stock I can shoot all day long.

 

[Grumpy_old_Fart]

I hunt with a 270 wby in a #1. I really don't see a difference between it and a 30-06 in #1. I have both. The 30-06 is louder because of the 22" barrel. Recoil is the same.

 

[horsey300]

Another thing I've found in regards to felt recoil that has a noticable effect is stock design. My Savage 110 in 7 mag kicks like a mule. My buddy has a Ruger 77 in 300 Win Mag with a straighter stock I can shoot all day long.

Absolutely right! I have a .270wsm (r1) that is shoot ALL day over my buddy's .270!

 

[marksman13]

I hunt with a 270 wby in a #1. I really don't see a difference between it and a 30-06 in #1. I have both. The 30-06 is louder because of the 22" barrel. Recoil is the same.

This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I picture it being pretty similar to No. 1 International in 30-06. Not really pleasant, but not painful. This guy is selling 25-30 No. 1s and I am trying to decide which ones I want other than the stainless 30-30. That one is a must have.