.32 Ammo

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My neighbor asked me to help her with a gun this weekend and I couldn't answer her.
She brought out a Charter Arms Undercoverette that was in nearly pristine shape. The barrel was marked "Undercoverette 32".
I don't know squat about a .32 and internet research on these older guns wasn't a lot of help. Will this gun handle .32 long, .32 Colt, .32 S&W, what? I told her I would help her find out info on the gun that someone apparently gave her several years back so any help would be appreciated. From what I could tell it seems to have been made in the early 1970's and may have never been fired.
She also brought out her carry gun, a Sig P238, and her father's rifle, a Sears 30-30 that was a bit rusty and had a scope mount(sans scope) attached.
 
If it only says 32 on it you are correct that those are the rounds it would take. The most common and still available is the 32 S&W Long.
 
If it is actually from the 1970s, it should take 32 long ammo. The current Undercoverette takes 32 H&R magnums but the 32 magnum round didn't come along until 1984. I would think the caliber would be on the revolver somewhere.

Jeff
 
A 32 Charter Undercoverette from the 1970's would have been made for 32 S&W Long. That cartridge is also sometimes called .32 Long, because nobody has made revolvers for any other 32 Long cartridge since about 1920. Also, some gun companies do not like marking their guns with "S&W". For that reason Colt used to call this same round "32 Colt New Police", and some ammo companies used to sell it under that name, but that died out 50 to 60 years ago, I think. That round is NOT the same as 32 Long Colt, which was dimensionally different, and was one of those cartridges nobody made guns for after 1920.

At the time this gun was made, 32 H&R Magnum did not exist, and nobody was making snub-nose revolvers for .32-20 Winchester. You can use the shorter just plain "32 S&W" in it, but I don't know why you'd want to; it is hard to find, will not shoot to the same point of aim, and is too weak for just about any purpose at all (besides paper punching from certain highly specialized automatic target pistols).

There are two main bullet styles available for 32 S&W Long: round nose lead (RNL) and wadcutters WC). Wadcutters look almost like blanks, but they have a soup-can shaped bullet loaded way down in the case. Target shooters like wadcutters because they cut perfect circles in a paper target and make scoring easy. (The circular pieces of paper they punch out look like miniature old time paper shotgun wads, which is where the name comes from.) They are about equally useful for self-defense; people hope the RNL has more penetration and that the wadcutter has more shock on impact, but that is a subject of bitter debate. Round nosed bullets are significantly easier to load or reload the gun with in a hurry, because they are pointy instead of blunt.

An Italian company named Fiocchi makes a round-nosed full metal jacket bullet (FMJ) load in 32 S&W Long. The FMJ bullet does not make much difference, but in my experience, the Fiocchi ammo was loaded a little hotter than American 32 Long loads. I don't know if it still is. Fiocchi sells a lot of ammo in the US, but it can be hard to find at stores, as opposed to gun shows (also in my experience). It is sometimes cheaper than US ammo as well.

What you really want for self-defense, according to today's thinking, are bullets that expand on impact, most commonly "hollow point" bullets (HP). But I don't know if any major ammo manufacturer loads those in 32 Long. There is a small company called "Buffalo Bore" that might; even if they don't, if they make 32 Long in any form, they will load it hot. That is their specialty.

Sorry I have rambled on so long. I hope some of it is helpful. 32 Long is one of my favorite cartridges, and it is a pretty good choice for someone who does not shoot much and could easily develop a bad flinch with a pistol that has much recoil. You might want to look into getting oversize rubber grips for the gun anyway; the Pachmayr company makes a great variety of them. You can search for them on Ebay.

PS - 32 Automatic would sort of fit, and might fire most of the time, but it is undersized, overpressured, and may give bad accuracy. Don't try it, is my advice.
 
If it's a 2" snub made in Stratford, CT, it's .32 S&W Long.

Charter did make some .32 Magnums they labeled Police models, but they're pretty rare.

It will be easy to tell if it's a .32 SWL or .32 Mag if you can get a round of .32 Mag and it doesn't go in all the way, then it's not a .32 Mag, it's a .32 SWL.

It's more than likely .32 SWL.
 
Thanks guys. I was suspecting that it is a 32 long and will see if I can find her some ammo. I think I have an old 32 that I inherited but I know I don't have any ammo for it. Since it's not a cartridge I shoot I have never given it any thought. I have multiple 38s and 357 revolvers and shoot them regularly
My guess is that it will go back wherever she keeps it and never be fired.
 
Most likely made to shoot the S&W .32 long. These guns will also shoot the .32 S&W cartridge, sometimes called the .32 S&W short. If it is a newer gun chambered for the .32 H&R Magnum it would still shoot the .32 long and/or the .32 Short cartridge . If that were the case however it would have likely been marked for the .32 H&R. To be safe buy either the .32 S&WL (Long) or the .32 S&W (Short). The .32 Colt has different dimension's and should not be used in that gun.
 
Older Charters in 32 S&W Long were a 6 Shot
built on the small frame ..
in 85 or 86 they rolled out with a 6 Shot 32 H&R magnum built on the Bulldog frame .. call a 32 H&R Police
They now are building the Undercoverette on a small frame six shot 32 H&R ...
 
Did not read all the posts.

But my STRONG suggestion is to call Charter Arms and ask them.

To be REALLY sure of the round for the wheel gun.

They can I.D. it by serial #.
 
Older Charters in 32 S&W Long were a 6 Shot
built on the small frame
Definitely a 6 shot. I was a little surprised that it only said 32 rather than .32 long.
But my STRONG suggestion is to call Charter Arms and ask them.
I will have to get her to show me the gun again as it belongs to a neighbor. She has never shot it so it's not high on the priority list.
I decided to look and found that I don't have one .32...I actually have three!!! Two old S&W and a Brazilian gun. They were in a bag at the bottom of a safe with other guns I never shoot. Now I get to clean them and look to see if I actually have ammo for them. If so it won't be more than a box or two.
 
Best looking and best conditioned H&R that I have ever owned.
Just got her,and found 4 boxes of ammo in the house [ dont know why I kept it ].
And with that I found 5 boxes of .32 auto for the Beretta 84's that I bought.
All 3 are a real hoot to shoot. 32 break top 2.jpg 32 break top.jpg
 
Best looking and best conditioned H&R that I have ever owned.
Just got her,and found 4 boxes of ammo in the house [ dont know why I kept it ].
And with that I found 5 boxes of .32 auto for the Beretta 84's that I bought.
All 3 are a real hoot to shoot.View attachment 952041 View attachment 952042

.32 ACP is loaded to higher pressure than that top break was designed for. I strongly recommend not shooting .32 ACP in that gun. Even if it doesn't kaboom, you'll greatly increase wear and tear on a design that was never that strong to begin with.
 
.32 ACP is loaded to higher pressure than that top break was designed for. I strongly recommend not shooting .32 ACP in that gun. Even if it doesn't kaboom, you'll greatly increase wear and tear on a design that was never that strong to begin with.
Please reread my post.
The .32 auto is for the Beretta model 84 .32 auto.
I am very aware of the correct round for the CORRECT firearm.
But thanks for thinking I was about to hurt myself.
 
Please reread my post.
The .32 auto is for the Beretta model 84 .32 auto.
I am very aware of the correct round for the CORRECT firearm.
But thanks for thinking I was about to hurt myself.

The Beretta 84 is in 380 ACP. You either have an 81, or the wrong ammunition, or the Internet is wrong.

Having said that, I, for one, understood that you were not planning to use 32 ACP in your H&R revolver, which is a very nice one. I used to have one like it, but blued, and with the Rice grip frame. I never got around to shooting it; what's yours like?
 
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The Beretta 84 is in 380 ACP. You either have an 81, or the wrong ammunition, or the Internet is wrong.

Having said that, I, for one, understood that you were not planning to use 32 ACP in your H&R revolver, which is a very nice one. I used to have one like it, but blued, and with the Rice grip frame. I never got around to shooting it; what's yours like?
LOL, and yes you just made me open my safe to check.

You sir are correctamundo.

I was looking for the Beretta double stack that was also sold under the Browning name .

That pistol held 13 rounds of .380 and was what I hungered for.

But the price is now silly high [ 800.00 last one I saw ].

So I bought the set of the 2 81's [ see,got it that time ] for 170.00 a piece at a gun show [ when we had them ].

They shoot VERY well and are more than accurate for a S/D pistol,IF you can see your way clear to shooting what europe has used for at least 100 years.

btw = there are a few decent H.P. rounds of .32 on the market.

AND a few pretty hot ball ammo that I might prefer for penetration.
 
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