35 Remington

[Keyfer 55]

Why are the 35 Remington not loaded
to 44000 psi ???

 

[troy fairweather]

early rifle were not made for any higher psi. like the 7x57 and the 6.5 Swedish mauser and others to prevent people from firing hotter loads in older gun the psi is caped at 44,000. Tho the 35 does so well more power is not needed, the 358 in kinda proves that thinking.

 

[Riomouse911]

If you have a Remington bolt action or a TC Encore in .35 Remington it'll handle the higher pressures you were asking about.
As was stated earlier, the levers and pumps that it was designed for wont.

 

[Gordon]

I recently sold off my "older" .35 Remingtons. .35 Remington is right up there as my favorite cartridge after years of fantastic performance on game under 200 yards . Really I am amazed at the destructive power of the 200 grain factory Remington Corloktd load on deer and big hogs in the less than 150 yards they are usually shot . The 1" hole bored clean thru 400 pound wild boar tell of it's destructive path ! The relatively mild muzzle blast and recoil are super nice too for shooting deer out of the local apple orchards- I don't need to travel far for my venison as the orchard owners appreciate that aspect. I use a Remington 600 Carbine with a Leupold 1-4x scope and my favorite load for the work I do is USUALLY these last cople years since non lead is mandated the TTSX 180 grain bullet over enough H4895 to get 2350 FPS from an 18 inch barrel . That is a 50,000+ psi load for sure .

 

[Walkalong]

Really I am amazed at the destructive power of the 200 grain factory Remington Corloktd load on deer and big hogs in the less than 150 yards they are usually shot

Yep, very good stuff.

As posted, it's kept to lower pressures due to some older actions out there that would not handle it well.

 

[Gordon]

 

[Gordon]

The above Remington model 8 served me well in the 80s-90s in Monterey County, I shot a Mountain lion with it once when it was legal.

 

[Gordon]

I can't find a picture of my Marlin 336 .35 Rem but here is my now sold Model 141 .35 Remington. It was a slick shooter but never shot game with it although it was a truck gun 20 years.

 

[Jessesky]

View attachment 809192 The above Remington model 8 served me well in the 80s-90s in Monterey County, I shot a Mountain lion with it once when it was legal.

Where did you get that stock? It’s so crazy that I want it

 

[Gordon]

I sold that rifle a few years back which served me many year (20+) and I had replaced all the springs right after I got it and had it matte reblued in a hot tank method. I did a stock refinish with BLO , I think. and the rifle was in excellent shoot order, accurate as shown and very vintage cute. I don't remember who but he was on this forum I think. He was one of the only persons who was unhappy with what he bought from me before or since , but chose to keep it. I think he found a place on the 110 year old barrel should that had moderate pitting under the blue where the hand touches it. Anyway yes the crescent straight grip were used in the first few years of production and were very vintage looking. The ultimate vintage but plate is on my Marlin 27 pump 32-20 and looks like a swiss target hook, well almost.

 

[Gordon]

Oh wait are you talking about the totally unique bull pup stocked Remington 600 I built ? Sorry you cant get that stock anymore , the maker Western Gunstocks , is gone I believe, he was my neighbor.

 

[GooseGestapo]

Gordon, I don’t think your H4895 is quite as warm as you think. I’ve used the 180 Speer FN over H4895 for over 2,400fps, though backing off to your load gives effortless extraction/opening of the action of my Marlin M336C. My guess is closer to 44-45,000psi.

I however, have found the Speer 180 to be a bit “hard”, and much prefer the 200gr Remington Corlokts and Sierra 200gr ProHunters. 40.0gr gives just over 2,200fps and duplicates the 1930’s express load. It is also amazingly accurate.
Because of it putting extra stress and wear on some of the Semiauto guns, combined with the onset of WWII, Remington discontinued it.

Another misconception plaguing the .35Rem involves the trajectory. With the aforementioned load, sighted in at 100yds, the 200yd drop is a bit much, but if sighted +2.5-3” at 100yds, it’s only 5-6” low. I’ve connected with deer with several shots between 200-220yds, and it still surprises me how flat the old lead chunker shoots. My .358win BLR with a Hornady 200gr Interlock PtSpt is also sighted for 3” high at 100yds yielding a 200yd Zero, and 10”low at 300yds. 300yds is a LOONG shot in my neck of the woods. I’ve killed 2 deer so far this season. One was 75yds (w/.308MXLR), second was at 45yds, (Federal7/8oz Sabot slug).

After component crisis of Obama admin, I bought an RCBS 200gr FNGC mold. Loaded over a modest load of 39.0gr BLC2 it delivers 2,050fps at an as-cast weight of 220gr. Like your TTSX, It punches 1”holes through everything I’ve shot it at. However, I can make 1,000 of them for the cost of 50 TTSX. (Price of gaschecks). It’s hard to tell the difference between the 350gr ..540” 20ga sabot slug at 1,650fps and the .35 with the 220gr. Only the .35 hard cast FN substantially out penetrates the hollow point soft lead slug.

 

[Gordon]

Calif. Among it's other picadillos California only allows non lead bullets for any hunting, the Barnes Ttsx has a very slippery profile so the drop is a couple inches as I sighed it 1" high at 100 yards , my 600 carbine has an 18" barrel and to get that bullet over 2400 fps in it I am pretty sure it would be too warm for my 336. Yes I used the 200 grain Corlokt in all my .35 Remington with complete satisfaction. Just showing how useful a streamlined bullet can be loaded safely in a strong format. Mine is ideal for the Coastal blacktails under the Redwoods and in the apple orchards around me. It really puts them down FAST and reliably but little blood shot meat not directly hit

 

[Mn Fats]

.35 Remington is right up there as my favorite cartridge after years of fantastic performance on game under 200 yards . Really I am amazed at the destructive power of the 200 grain factory Remington Corloktd load on deer and big hogs in the less than 150 yards they are usually shot.

Same. I love the 35 Remington. Especially out of a model 8/88. With the humpback like the A-5, I feel like yelling "pull!" before I shoot. Handy little brush gun.

And for those Remington 200gr core lokts, amazing. When I first got my Model 8 I was all set to pick up some dies and lead and figured I'd burn off 2 boxes of 200gr core lokts I had laying around for the brass. 2 were touching @100 yards and the third wasn't too far from it. Been dropping deer with them since...and I still have one of the two boxes left!

 

[Mn Fats]

View attachment 809192 The above Remington model 8 served me well in the 80s-90s in Monterey County, I shot a Mountain lion with it once when it was legal.

Jealous of your peep sights on that model 8. Last I checked, eBay had one for $265 or so.

 

[Gordon]

and the guy who bought it complained ! The finsh was a rough sandblast blue to cover barrel housing pits,I used it for 20 years after I did that and the picture was right before I sold it to him. ALL new springs and it was 2m0a accurate !I think I got $450 and shipped it to him. AND it was a take down !

 

[troy fairweather]

Jealous of your peep sights on that model 8. Last I checked, eBay had one for $265 or so.

i will look i think my dad has 2 or 3 sights for the 8

 

[Mn Fats]

^ thanks Troy, pm sent.

 

[Enfielder]

I'm new to .35 Remington but I like what I have heard. I have about 80 rounds through my 141 and have developed a load for it that makes holes in the intended places often enough for the freezer.
My question is which rifle actions are they worried about? This 141 seems pretty ok but I don't know if I'd go loading hot dogs in to it.

 

[Gordon]

Stay with factory level loads in the 141. That will limit you to around less than 2100 FPS from rifle length barrel with 200 grain bullets and 2300 FPS with the 180 grainers. The 225 grainers have been kinda slow for me in the tube feed guns topping out at 1900 fps and the recoil seems way up. I have used 250 grain bullets in my 600 carbine and got them easily to 1900 fps out of its 18" barrel BUT recoil was way upand I am not sure of their expansion at impacts of 1800 fps or less as the are designed for bigger cartridges.

 

[alsaqr]

SAAMI pressure for the .35 Remington round has been set at 35,000 CUP.

See page 20:

https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Z299-4_ANSI-SAAMI_CFR.pdf

 

[GooseGestapo]

With the 141, stick with factory level loads. But don’t feel put upon, or limited.
The 200gr Sierra ProHunter RN at 2,000fps is a brutal killer on deer. The “old standard” is IMR3031 at about 36.0gr.
38.5 with H4895 or 40.0gr BLC2

 

[eastbank]

when I bought this rem 141 it came at a very good price because of the non factory D&T for the receiver sight. it loves factory 200 gr round nose shells and I have shot pop cans at 100 yards from a good rest.