MikeJackmin
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There's always the Martini action, too.
.357 magnum bolt-action?
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Brian Williams
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A Mini Mauser with the bolt face opened a bit and chambered in 357 would make a nice groundhog gun.
I too wanted .357 in the bolt. I gave and went after the Handi. I could not find one in Southern Indiana. I settled and got the only .44 in a Handi. I looked for 2 weeks, racked up a phone bill. I think I found the only .44 in Southern Indiana. The new Deer hunting rules have made the .357 and
.44 long guns scarce. It (SB2-S44)does shoot sweet though.
.44 long guns scarce. It (SB2-S44)does shoot sweet though.
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The idea of a 357 bolt might be interesting but I think it would sell. You look at some of the downright weird and silly combos out there that are on the market and I think the bolt 357 makes some good sense.
Why doesn't the OP like lever guns? I myself wasn't a fan because my eyesight didn't allow easy use of the factory sight mounted way down the barrel. Then someone at my range had me shoot a lever that had a peep mounted and it was love.
I believe the Ruger bolt gun for the 44 mag was slightly more expensive than a marlin lever gun . It certainly wasn't any cheeper and I do not recall if it had sights or if it was necessary to buy bases ,rings,and a scope.
To my way of thinking a bolt .357 would be a completely new undertakeing from the factories viewpoint and therefore somewhat of a risk. In other words they would have to risk a bunch of cash to get up and running just to see if it would sell.
The lever gun approach is basicly a stock gun with a couple of different sized parts that can be made on current production lines and isn't much of a risk to make and see how it sells.
Why doesn't the OP like lever guns? I myself wasn't a fan because my eyesight didn't allow easy use of the factory sight mounted way down the barrel. Then someone at my range had me shoot a lever that had a peep mounted and it was love.
I believe the Ruger bolt gun for the 44 mag was slightly more expensive than a marlin lever gun . It certainly wasn't any cheeper and I do not recall if it had sights or if it was necessary to buy bases ,rings,and a scope.
To my way of thinking a bolt .357 would be a completely new undertakeing from the factories viewpoint and therefore somewhat of a risk. In other words they would have to risk a bunch of cash to get up and running just to see if it would sell.
The lever gun approach is basicly a stock gun with a couple of different sized parts that can be made on current production lines and isn't much of a risk to make and see how it sells.
Seafarer12
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Just find you an ffl and order one from Buds or someplace like that.
Skofnung
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How about a scaled down SMLE in .357? I'd buy two.
My Marlin 1894C in .357 is about as accurate as a gun could be with the round. What does the bolt gun offer? What advantage would it have?
As far as I can see, it would be a lower-capacity, more expensive, probably heavier, more finicky, slower-cycling, less "pointable" gun that had the same accuracy. What's the upside?
(BTW the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39 might interest you -- it's not .357, but it's a great little bolt rifle that competes with lever guns.)
http://www.czusa.com/product_detail.php?id=15
As far as I can see, it would be a lower-capacity, more expensive, probably heavier, more finicky, slower-cycling, less "pointable" gun that had the same accuracy. What's the upside?
(BTW the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39 might interest you -- it's not .357, but it's a great little bolt rifle that competes with lever guns.)
http://www.czusa.com/product_detail.php?id=15
(BTW the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39 might interest you -- it's not .357, but it's a great little bolt rifle that competes with lever guns.)
Cant use it on Deer in Indiana(legaly). Before someone says its not enough gun(357or44) All of our shots in the last 8-9 years have been under 75 yds and most under 50 yds.
Cant use it on Deer in Indiana(legaly). Before someone says its not enough gun(357or44) All of our shots in the last 8-9 years have been under 75 yds and most under 50 yds.
Koos Custodiet
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>4. I don’t like lever rifles.
Heretic!
Get a decent lever, play with it, report back next month.
Heretic!
Get a decent lever, play with it, report back next month.
Oh, yeah.
Anyone who says that .357 is insufficient for woods deer hunting hasn't seen the ballistics of one that's loaded for carbine use. Until you get out to the range where the bigger, blunt bullet slows down sooner, it could just as soon be a .30-30.
Anyway, I'm guessing that short-range hunting also means quick shooting. At least here, if I see a deer close up, I had better shoot it NOW or forget it. I can't think of a gun I'd rather have than my Marlin lever gun for that purpose.
Carrying a full-size bolt gun for that kind of hunting is like carrying a goose gun for quail. Nothing but frustration and lost opportunities.
Seafarer12
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Why is that? What is their reasoning?
I know in Texas it just has to be a centerfire.
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Hmm, It seems like even if the bolt .357 existed, it fills no real useful niche! My original question was based on my liking for the CZ452 (my first rifle) and thinking it would be cool to own a scaled-up version shooting .357 ammo (which I also like, and have lots of).
I admit I can't make any argument against levers on the basis of functionality, but I just don't like how they look! Maybe my opinion will change once I shoot them some more.
Thanks,
I admit I can't make any argument against levers on the basis of functionality, but I just don't like how they look! Maybe my opinion will change once I shoot them some more.
Thanks,
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