Ronsch
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I live down in Juneau (not Juno) and when I go woods walking (and not hunting...totally different scenario), I carry a shotgun loaded with slugs.
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357 vs grizzly
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KodiakBeer
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Diet has nothing to do with it. They're just born a particular color phase and that's their color for life. Bears have a winter coat and a summer coat and so their color may change a bit over the year.
AKPastor
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I live in the interior of AK and we have blacks and browns. Black bear can be quite dangerous enough, but the browns are powerhouses.
Some have noted that they can get too big to climb trees - well if you are in the interior, there are few trees thick enough that a brown couldn't push it over - or tall enough to get out of his reach easily.
That said, I prefer .45 acp with military hardball ammo. The penetration is reportedly great on a black bear - and quite decent on a brown - but I have not had to try my hand at it and hope to God I never do.
As one post said - the best thing is to remain alert, make lots of noise, and keep your long gun handy. Most of the time, bears are rather shy and stay away from noise.
As to bear spray - my thoughts are that it just gives the person using it a bit of a Mexican spicy flavor for when the bear starts to eat
Some have noted that they can get too big to climb trees - well if you are in the interior, there are few trees thick enough that a brown couldn't push it over - or tall enough to get out of his reach easily.
That said, I prefer .45 acp with military hardball ammo. The penetration is reportedly great on a black bear - and quite decent on a brown - but I have not had to try my hand at it and hope to God I never do.
As one post said - the best thing is to remain alert, make lots of noise, and keep your long gun handy. Most of the time, bears are rather shy and stay away from noise.
As to bear spray - my thoughts are that it just gives the person using it a bit of a Mexican spicy flavor for when the bear starts to eat
CoastieShep
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Best bear gun is a .22 pistol. Shoot your buddy in the knee and run like the wind.
A .357 will stop a bear every single time.........you shoot him in the eye, going into his brain.
A .357 will stop a bear every single time.........you shoot him in the eye, going into his brain.
Deaf Smith
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i like when threads like this end up turning into semantics arguing, ignoring clarification posts in regards to what one meant, and who's the best biologist when it comes to nomenclature...
i personally agree with those who say .44 or larger. if you have the option of being more secure with a larger round, why take the chance with less firepower?
i personally agree with those who say .44 or larger. if you have the option of being more secure with a larger round, why take the chance with less firepower?
A .357Mag will shoot through an engine block; are you really trying to say that if all you had for a back up gun was a .357Mag, you wouldn't recommend using it. With 200 grain hot loads and a 6" barrel, it would be the very minimum caliber you could use. As others have said other calibers would be more effective. I know an old man that used to live up there and one of his friends was mauled pretty bad by a Grizzly. His friend emptied a full magazine from a 30.06 with 220 grain loads and the bear still got to him. In that case I don't care if you had a S&W .500 it wouldn't do [much good]. A lot of encounters depends on the "individual" and by that I mean the bear and the person behind the gun. My friend said that the best weapon he would recommend would be a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with foster slugs. He said that it's devastating; he said that one guy killed a bear at point blank range with Goose Loads. The bear had the guy by surprise and the guy only had time to turn and the barrel of the gun went right under the chin of the bear right before he pulled the trigger. He said the bears momentum knocked the guy down, but the bear was toast. The guy ended up with a broken collar bone and a broken pelvis. Not exactly ideal, but better than being eaten alive I guess. All this being said go with a shotgun and keep it close by otherwise go with the biggest handgun you can manage. 
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Folks,
Debate on what is and isn't a the grizzly bear (Ursus arctos horribilis) and what are and are not the characteristics are generally out of scope for THR's Revolver forum (and probably out of scope for THR as a whole) unless you're focusing on how easy or difficult it is to achieve adequate penetration or delivered energy to the target. It is also a sidebar on the OP's topic and should be carried out by PMs to avoid hijacking the thread.
Debate on what is and isn't a the grizzly bear (Ursus arctos horribilis) and what are and are not the characteristics are generally out of scope for THR's Revolver forum (and probably out of scope for THR as a whole) unless you're focusing on how easy or difficult it is to achieve adequate penetration or delivered energy to the target. It is also a sidebar on the OP's topic and should be carried out by PMs to avoid hijacking the thread.
wow6599
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No it won't
We'll assume that is just hyperbole and that no one is expected to take it literally as fact.
John Wayne
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Yeah, and a .30-30 will also shoot through a bank vault door. When did Teddy Kennedy start posting on this forum?
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Now that I think about it, I see no reason why a .357 loaded with hard cast or FMJ bullets couldn't shoot clean through a 15cc weedeater engine.
wow6599
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hso, you would be surprised at all gun owners I know, some ex-military, who really think a .357 Mag will go through an engine block. My father-in-law is one of them; he ran an armory in the National Guard for close to 10 years.
Art Eatman
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Folks, I'm sorry, but I see very little socially redeeming material in worrying about engine blocks.
Besides which, they ain't furry...
Enough. Find a .357. Find a bear. Deal with it, and report back.
Besides which, they ain't furry...
Enough. Find a .357. Find a bear. Deal with it, and report back.
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