there are loads for the 357 aproaching 800 ft/lbs at the muzzle from buffalo bore, but from what i've seen, the 357 is a very marginal tool for taking a deer at any distance over 25-30 yds. The bullet wont even exit half the time if you clip a shoulder. It will kill the deer, but you may never find it. I have taken a doe with my 6" gp100 this year, and it performed well that time, but I have seen it fail to exit often enough to warrant me moving up to a .44 next year. The .40 and .45 were designed to be man stoppers, not hunting loads. I know that deer aren't all that tough, hell you can killem with a .22, but we owe it to the game to use enough gun to ensure a clean, quick, recoverable kill.