40 S&W Nosler 135 JHP test results

[kidcoltoutlaw]

Ok I soaked some american rifleman mags over night
Then shot them with my 40 135 JHP load it went like this. No denim to start with. This load smokes Hodgdon Longshot max load but low pressure. It also shoots 10 shot groups of 2.5 inches at 25 yards. Never tuned the load went for power than checked it for accuracy. It was the first time I ever went that way. I always load for accuracy.

135 Nosler JHP at 1482
1st shot 76 grains dia .552
2nd shot 74 grains dia .663
3rd shot 77 grains .703
4th shot 76 grains dia. .643

Nosler 135 JHP at 1482 and 12 layers of Denim

1st shot 135 grains dia. .900
2nd shot 133 grains dia. .960
3rd shot 135 grains dia. 1.043
4th shot 126 grains dia. .864

Tried a 357 mag also

125 Winchester JHP at 1520
1st shot 68 grains dia. 550
2nd shot 63 grains. dia. .592

357 mag Denim 12 layers
1st shot 125 grains dia. .690

 

[SDGlock23]

Great info! Did the 135's penetrate pretty well? I've loaded the Nosler 135 behind 12 gr. of Longshot and it did okay in water.

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

It sure did

The way I see it it hits as hard or harder than a 357 Mag. It went 14 mags deep without the denim and 18 with the denim. Your shooting the same load Im shooting. You just got to love Longshot if your shooting a 40 S&W.

 

[caz223]

So, if the .40 can do this, what's the 10mm for? Just 200 grain loads?

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

Hunting

Deer maybe. The Ten is a lot of gun for something as frail as a man. I have a 10mm S&W 610 I have not shot any 10mm rounds in it yet.
I did this with my P229 SIG 3.9 inch barrel.

 

[Joelk]

In 10mm I have gotten 1735 fps with the Nosler 135 grain bullets in a 6 inch barrel using Hogdon Longshot

 

[caz223]

How many loads you get per pound, like 50?

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

Joelk

Sounds like a good load . How many grains is it above book ? Was it from a S&W 610 ?

Thanks,keith

 

[Joelk]

It is out of a custom 6 inch slide Glock, with a KKM barrel. It is actually .2 grain UNDER max. I worked up slowly, and that is as far as I felt comfortable going.
Just as a safety warning DO NOT go anywhere near max in a stock Glock barrel. Consequently I don't have data from a stock length barrel.

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

I got this from a 5 inch

40 S&W with a 135 1567. Not to bad for short and weak and small enough to carry.

 

[Joelk]

That is better than not bad In fact that is a little better than I was able to get with a stock Glock barrel in a 10mm G20 (4.6 inch) before getting Glock smiles on my brass! I have a fully supported aftermarket barrel ordered for that, and will have to see what I can do when it gets here.

Longshot is a very impressive powder. I am still working up a 45 Super load with good results so far too.

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

Thanks

That 135 JHP Nosler load with Longshot just blows me away. I love the 357 SIG and I bet I have a 1000.00 tied up in 357 SIG barrels. It is super accurate and the power is good. It's just that the 40 load is smoking. I have not tried the 40 load at 50 yards yet the 357 SIG may have the edge there. The load is tuned for the 357 SIG and it gets about 2 inches at 25 yards. The load is not tuned to the 40 and it gets 2.5 inches at 25 yards. Not to bad the way i see it. So for as long as I can get 135 grain bullets for the 40 I will be happy,

Thanks,Keith

 

[HSMITH]

Joelk, I have no problems at all with book max loads in my G22 with stock barrel. I have not loaded it in 10mm though.

One other factor, my Glock is completely stock including the springs. Lots of the spring mods touted on internet boards could have the gun unlocking a little earlier and the brass smilies will be apparent when in a stock gun all is well.

 

[Joelk]

In my G20 with Longshot I start to see Glock smiles about .7~.9 grain under max with the stock barrel, but the brass looks great from my KKM. I also get Glock smiles with Doubletap 135, 155, and 165 grain ammo in the stock barrel, but not the KKM. The smiles are not horrible, but bad enough that I won't reload the case (in reloading I am relatively conservative, better safe than sorry).
These results are with the stock recoil spring with the stock barrel.

I don't reload 40 S&W, but here is the note from Hodgdon:
"40 S&W WARNING:
This data is intended for use in firearms with barrels which fully support the cartridge in the chamber. Use of this data in firearms which do not fully support the cartridge may result in bulged cases, ruptured cases, case head separation, or other condition which may result in damage to the firearm and/or result in injury or death of the shooter and/or bystanders."
This seems to support my results in 10mm. However after reading Kidcoltoutlaw's results I may have to load up some 40s and see what happens in my G23 (staring way below max and working up)!

 

[caz223]

I should point out that you can use longshot in 357SIG, and it yields some pretty good results.

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

Longshot and the 357 SIG

In what length barrel and what was the velocity ?

Thanks,Keith

 

[caz223]

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/pistol/longshot/index.htm

 

[kidcoltoutlaw]

I have seen that

I thought maybe you had tried it in your gun,

Thanks,Keith