505 Gibbs vs 500 Jeffery

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So last week I posted a thread looking for info on the 505 Gibbs. The CZ Safari Magnum I've been looking at is also chambered in 500 Jeffery. I've noticed that the Jeffery has more bullet selection and I want to know who has knowledge on additional pros and cons between these two calibers. I'm an avid reloader and am interested in adding one of these calibers to my armory.
 
I don't have any experience with either of those two, but have you looked at the CZ in 458 Lott? Ammo is pretty easy to find and way cheaper than those two. Hornady has ammo available for about $4 a shot, plus Federal makes some also. Componants are readily available and fairly cheap. On top of that, it will shoot 458 Winchester Magnum also. I love mine, and it has plenty of power for anything that walks the Earth. Just a thought on an alternative cartridge.
 
I'm thinking at $6.75 cents each for Bertram brass for either one, I'd get a 458 Lott.

On the otherhand, a half a box of ammo of any of the three would be a lifetime supply for me if I were somehow forced to shoot them.

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I also have a keen interest in .50 caliber hunting cartridges. Personally I would choose the .500 Jeffery because the case capacity is less. Theoretically, it should have less recoil when loaded to the same level as the .505 Gibbs. The con is that the rim is rebated, which could lead to feeding problems. The fact is that I would be very happy with either one.
 
Thanks guys but I do have a 458 Lott among others. I just recently caught the bug to get a 50 cal safari rifle.
 
i'd go with the gibbs since the cz550 has enough action length to handle it.
i've shot a gibbs once and it was stout but not to bad
 
Well, the Jeffery fires a slightly wider and heavier bullet slightly faster than the Gibbs. Because it uses a smaller case, pressure is higher. Supposedly this matters in Africa, but after decades of reading I've come across exactly zero reliable reports of either one failing to extract because of pressure. Both cartridges are notoriously difficult to make feed in a rifle. Both have sterling (albeit quite limited) reputations against the largest game. Both recoil ferociously. (And yes, in theory the Jeffery would recoil slightly less, if you fired the same bullet at the same speed. I'm not sure you can even find bullets of the same weight for both cartridges, and even if you could, the few ft/lbs. of recoil would be utterly lost in the big picture of 100+ ft/lbs.! The reality is that the Jeffery drives a bigger bullet faster, so recoils more. Of course, the "big picture" note still applies.)

Essentially, they are equally useless for anything but situations which few of us will ever have the good fortune to encounter. So it becomes a matter of pure emotion. My emotion said "Buy the big one!". I simply prefer the charisma of that giant .505 case, and as long as we're choosing the CZ with the giant action, we might as well choose a cartridge that fills it!
 
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Why not a .500NE, sexy straight walled cartridge, low pressure, and a great deal of history behind this old cartridge. If I wanted a big "fitty", that'd be the one (though the wee little .458 and .416s appeal more to me).

:)
 
Hard choice. The gibbs is a big ole cartridge with a case head to match = not much meat left on the bolt face rim. If you ever drop that bolt...

The Jeffreys is hard to make feed with a staggered mag I hear. Something about the rebated rim.

I'd personally go for a 500 A-Square. Essentially a necked up 460 weatherby.

I actually have a CZ550 magnum action lying around somewhere from back when I was all excited about african hunting.
 
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