8-bore= destructive device?

[paintballdude902]

well i was flipping through sportsafield today and read an article about double rifle shooting

part of it was talking about the 8-bore then it stated that the caliber was a close to an .85

does this classify an 8-bore as a destructive device?


or is it exept?

 

[Vicious-Peanut]

A 12 gauge is around a .70 so I would think it is exempt.

 

[Diamondback6]

Depends, are we talking one fitted for "sporting purposes" like big-game, or are we talking a tricked-out, tacticool version?

 

[Matt304]

An 8-bore is a shotgun, which means it has sporting exemption, so long as it was built that way. I think the only destructive devices as shotguns qualified due to their assault weapon nature, which really equates to being black and semi-auto, more or less. If it's a big double shotgun for example, it is legal for you.

 

[General Geoff]

Regardless of whether it's a rifle or shotgun, if it's a single shot single or double barrel job, it's almost certainly exempt from the DD stamp as it's a sporting weapon.

 

[Ash]

What about those Russian made 4 gauge shotguns that came in 5 or 6 or 7 years ago? They were legal as far as I know...except for hunting. At least I know they were not legal for fowl. So owning them was one thing, using them for hunting was something else. Of course, using them for home defense is another matter.

Ash

 

[MachIVshooter]

THe definition of "sporting" when it is applied for the purpose of DD exemptions is quite arbitrary in nature, and seems largely dependent on origin, finish and price.

Custom, fancy wood, engraved double guns from Britain easily make the cut, but a US-made black-on-black single shot in the same >.500" bore would almost certainly be declared NFA.

 

[Matt304]

Another thing. Anyone I know who has had >.500 cartridges approved as "sporting" never had to send a picture of the gun it was fired from. Only a drawing of the cartridge and description. So when the heck do they step in and descriminate the guns themselves, if the cartridge itself is approved as sporting? That is the part which I do not understand. It seems to only apply to manufacturers, where as individuals you seem to be able to pursue it from whatever direction you please.

 

[Bendutro]

BATFE, selective enforcement at it's finest!

I think an old double rifle could be included under the C&R umbrella, even the big bores.

 

[Reyn]

It would be destructive to your shoulder.

 

[PercyShelley]

BATFE, selective enforcement at it's finest!

IIRC, there are fairly specific, cartridge by cartridge exemptions of DDs on the grounds of "sporting purpose," so this is actually pretty good, as far as the BATFE goes.

See if you can find the thread about the "12 gauge rifle from hell," I think that has some more information about how the process works.

 

[jerkface11]

8 bore and even 4 bore rifles are legal to own as they are classed as sporting cartridges. Same with .577 Tyrannosaur 700 Nitro Express and many other big bore cartridges.

 

[Jim Watson]

There is an article by Hamilton Bowen about his .577 revolver; a modernization of the old Tranter tiger and Fuzzy-Wuzzy stoppers. He said he cannot build them for sale, the BATF will not give a .50+ handgun a "sporting purposes" exemption, even though a black powder gun of a 130 year old design.

 

[Vaarok]

For shotguns, it has to use a cartridge that's not completely metallic. That's how they get away with making rifled slug-guns that're obviously over .50-cal.

 

[groda]

There is an article by Hamilton Bowen about his .577 revolver; a modernization of the old Tranter tiger and Fuzzy-Wuzzy stoppers. He said he cannot build them for sale, the BATF will not give a .50+ handgun a "sporting purposes" exemption, even though a black powder gun of a 130 year old design.

Explain revolvers in .600 Nitro.

 

[Zundfolge]

groda, I don't believe the Pfeifer-Zeliska pistols are imported into the US.

 

[macFarlaine]

I use a 4 bore an 8 bore and a 10 bore for hunting,we shoot geese with them,but this is in the UK.

 

[deth502]

IIRC, there are fairly specific, cartridge by cartridge exemptions of DDs on the grounds of "sporting purpose,"

can anyone produce this list??

id be very interested to see it.