870 vs 870 Express?
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The Express has a plastic trigger guard, the Wingmaster and Police have aluminum.
Other than the quality of finish that's about the only really major differences in the three.
All three are made from the same forged and milled receiver, and the parts are pretty much the same.
The major difference is, the Wingmaster has the nice walnut stocks, polished blue, and appearance goodies.
The Police has a tougher parkerized finish, and a couple of beefed-up springs.
The Express has "hard wood" stocks, a rough black finish, and the above mentioned plastic trigger guard. Plus they're a little rougher and less well finished inside and out, including the bore.
Bottom line is, other than the quality of finish, you're getting mechanically the same gun. They don't use cheaper, or weaker parts.
Other than the quality of finish that's about the only really major differences in the three.
All three are made from the same forged and milled receiver, and the parts are pretty much the same.
The major difference is, the Wingmaster has the nice walnut stocks, polished blue, and appearance goodies.
The Police has a tougher parkerized finish, and a couple of beefed-up springs.
The Express has "hard wood" stocks, a rough black finish, and the above mentioned plastic trigger guard. Plus they're a little rougher and less well finished inside and out, including the bore.
Bottom line is, other than the quality of finish, you're getting mechanically the same gun. They don't use cheaper, or weaker parts.
The plastic trigger guard must be new, I got one 2 years ago and the guard is definitally metal.
I'm not sure what all of the differences are. I know the express has a pressed bead and the wingmaster has a screw in bead, which is nice if you want to replace it with fiber optics. There might be other differences too.
I've had no problems with my express, but I clean and oil it ofter ever use. I had a buddy that never cleaned his, for years even. I borrowed it once, before I had my own, and after I pumped it a few times it got stuck. I pulled real hard and all the parts fell out of the bottom. I spent a few hours cleaning and oiling everything and reassembled it. It worked great after that.
I'm not sure what all of the differences are. I know the express has a pressed bead and the wingmaster has a screw in bead, which is nice if you want to replace it with fiber optics. There might be other differences too.
I've had no problems with my express, but I clean and oil it ofter ever use. I had a buddy that never cleaned his, for years even. I borrowed it once, before I had my own, and after I pumped it a few times it got stuck. I pulled real hard and all the parts fell out of the bottom. I spent a few hours cleaning and oiling everything and reassembled it. It worked great after that.
"The plastic trigger guard must be new, I got one 2 years ago and the guard is definitally metal."
Mine is older than that. Probably from '96 or so. In my specimen there is definitely a lack of ferromagnetic material. I administered my highly scientific evaluation by bringing a magnetically charged and calibrated object to the trigger guard, thereby giving an accurate estimation of magnetic properties.
OK, so the "magnetically charged and calibrated object" was a Seymour Duncan '59 humbucking guitar pickup, but that still gave me a very reliable indication that the trigger gaurd is most definitely plastic! Very beefy, too. I now notice that it doesn't seem cold like bare metal either, compared to the upper portion of the receiver.
Mine is older than that. Probably from '96 or so. In my specimen there is definitely a lack of ferromagnetic material. I administered my highly scientific evaluation by bringing a magnetically charged and calibrated object to the trigger guard, thereby giving an accurate estimation of magnetic properties.
OK, so the "magnetically charged and calibrated object" was a Seymour Duncan '59 humbucking guitar pickup, but that still gave me a very reliable indication that the trigger gaurd is most definitely plastic! Very beefy, too. I now notice that it doesn't seem cold like bare metal either, compared to the upper portion of the receiver.
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Gearbox - this subject has been discussed many times on this forum. Do a search and you will be reading for a long time.
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There seems to be no functional difference in the guards,regardless of material. That includes plastic, non ferrous metal and the steel TGs sold by Allen Timney.
Same with the followers. I've yet to hear of any probs with the plastic ones, though some folks report more rapid wear.
As for any difference between the Express and the WM series, the Express seems to need a little more time to smooth in. The YE Express here is as smooth as several of my WMs.
Same with the followers. I've yet to hear of any probs with the plastic ones, though some folks report more rapid wear.
As for any difference between the Express and the WM series, the Express seems to need a little more time to smooth in. The YE Express here is as smooth as several of my WMs.
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