Driftwood Johnson
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As has already been stated. Uberti does not make a replica of the 1892 Winchester.
https://www.uberti-usa.com/
I am a little bit spoiled, all my 1892 rifles are original Winchesters.
A 44-40 that left the factory in 1897.
A 44-40 Saddle Ring Carbine that left the factory in 1918.
A 32-20 that left the factory in 1911.
I have a 25-20 Saddle Ring Carbine that left the factory in 1928, but I don't seem to have a photo.
I have never wanted a rifle chambered for 45 Colt, lever guns were never chambered for that cartridge until the 1980s. Mostly the WCF cartridges, 44-40, 38-40, 32-20 and 25-20. Yes the 1873 Winchesters were only chambered for tapered cartridges, but I have never seen any information categorically stating the tapered cartridges were required to feed properly, since the carrier in all the toggle link rifles; the 1860 Henry, the 1866 and 1873 Winchesters rose straight up and the cartridge was aligned with the chamber.
Here is a 44-40 round lined up on the carrier of my Uberti Henry, ready to be shoved into the chamber.
Yes, the '92 has a tilting carrier, as does the Winchester Model 1894 and the Marlin Model 1894. Here is a photo of a 44-40 round riding up the carrier of one of my 92's, about to be shoved into the chamber. I don't have a whole lot of experience with semi-wadcutter bullets in tilting carriers, except a Marlin Model 1894 chambered for 357 Mag that my wife used to shoot in CAS. I was loading 38 Specials at the time for her with semi-wadcutter bullets, and I do not recall any problems with them feeding.
I did win a Rossi '92 chambered for 45 Colt in a raffle once a bunch of years ago. I had no intention of keeping it and sold it right away to help finance my Henry. I do remember the action was pretty stiff, but I have been spoiled by how smooth some of my old Winchesters are.
I'm surprised that Chiappa is getting so many high marks. A bunch of years ago Chiappa was the only alternative to Uberti if you wanted to buy a Winchester Model 1873 replica. At that time, the Chiapps were regularly getting bad reviews from CAS shooters. Perhaps because there were no after market parts available whereas there has always been a brisk business in after market parts for Uberti firearms.
Regarding whether or not the Miroku rifles sold under the Winchester name these days are really Winchesters: Let's talk about the rifles being made by the US based Henry Repeating Arms company and whether or not they are real Henry rifles.
P.S. Regarding recoil. It has just as much to do with the design of the rifle butt as the weight of the rifle. Notice that two of my 92s have crescent shaped butt plates. The Saddle Ring Carbine has a less severely curved carbine style butt plate. I don't own any 44 Mag rifles, but I can tell you lots of CAS shooters complain about recoil with their 45 Colt lever guns, which really do not generate much recoil. Generally speaking, they do not know the proper way to mount a lever gun with a crescent shaped butt plate. Take a look at the sharply curved butt plates on two of my 92s. The proper way to mount a rifle like that is to hike it out further on your arm, so the points of the crescent encircle the shoulder joint. That is the way they were designed and meant to be shot. Shoot it like many modern riflemen do, with the points of the crescent in contact with the meaty part of the shoulder, and it will hurt as recoil digs the points into your body. The points are meant to keep the butt from slipping up or down, and when mounted as I described, they do a very good job of that, and recoil is very mild and does not hurt at all. After many years of shooting lever guns, I find I like to stand at a bit or an angle to the target, rather than face it straight on. The rifle is slung across my body this way. Also, I raise the elbow of my right arm to bring the rifle up to my face, rather than hunching over and bringing my face down to the rifle.
As has already been stated. Uberti does not make a replica of the 1892 Winchester.
https://www.uberti-usa.com/
I am a little bit spoiled, all my 1892 rifles are original Winchesters.
A 44-40 that left the factory in 1897.
A 44-40 Saddle Ring Carbine that left the factory in 1918.
A 32-20 that left the factory in 1911.
I have a 25-20 Saddle Ring Carbine that left the factory in 1928, but I don't seem to have a photo.
I have never wanted a rifle chambered for 45 Colt, lever guns were never chambered for that cartridge until the 1980s. Mostly the WCF cartridges, 44-40, 38-40, 32-20 and 25-20. Yes the 1873 Winchesters were only chambered for tapered cartridges, but I have never seen any information categorically stating the tapered cartridges were required to feed properly, since the carrier in all the toggle link rifles; the 1860 Henry, the 1866 and 1873 Winchesters rose straight up and the cartridge was aligned with the chamber.
Here is a 44-40 round lined up on the carrier of my Uberti Henry, ready to be shoved into the chamber.
Yes, the '92 has a tilting carrier, as does the Winchester Model 1894 and the Marlin Model 1894. Here is a photo of a 44-40 round riding up the carrier of one of my 92's, about to be shoved into the chamber. I don't have a whole lot of experience with semi-wadcutter bullets in tilting carriers, except a Marlin Model 1894 chambered for 357 Mag that my wife used to shoot in CAS. I was loading 38 Specials at the time for her with semi-wadcutter bullets, and I do not recall any problems with them feeding.
I did win a Rossi '92 chambered for 45 Colt in a raffle once a bunch of years ago. I had no intention of keeping it and sold it right away to help finance my Henry. I do remember the action was pretty stiff, but I have been spoiled by how smooth some of my old Winchesters are.
I'm surprised that Chiappa is getting so many high marks. A bunch of years ago Chiappa was the only alternative to Uberti if you wanted to buy a Winchester Model 1873 replica. At that time, the Chiapps were regularly getting bad reviews from CAS shooters. Perhaps because there were no after market parts available whereas there has always been a brisk business in after market parts for Uberti firearms.
Regarding whether or not the Miroku rifles sold under the Winchester name these days are really Winchesters: Let's talk about the rifles being made by the US based Henry Repeating Arms company and whether or not they are real Henry rifles.
P.S. Regarding recoil. It has just as much to do with the design of the rifle butt as the weight of the rifle. Notice that two of my 92s have crescent shaped butt plates. The Saddle Ring Carbine has a less severely curved carbine style butt plate. I don't own any 44 Mag rifles, but I can tell you lots of CAS shooters complain about recoil with their 45 Colt lever guns, which really do not generate much recoil. Generally speaking, they do not know the proper way to mount a lever gun with a crescent shaped butt plate. Take a look at the sharply curved butt plates on two of my 92s. The proper way to mount a rifle like that is to hike it out further on your arm, so the points of the crescent encircle the shoulder joint. That is the way they were designed and meant to be shot. Shoot it like many modern riflemen do, with the points of the crescent in contact with the meaty part of the shoulder, and it will hurt as recoil digs the points into your body. The points are meant to keep the butt from slipping up or down, and when mounted as I described, they do a very good job of that, and recoil is very mild and does not hurt at all. After many years of shooting lever guns, I find I like to stand at a bit or an angle to the target, rather than face it straight on. The rifle is slung across my body this way. Also, I raise the elbow of my right arm to bring the rifle up to my face, rather than hunching over and bringing my face down to the rifle.
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