AMT Hardballer tomorrow

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What did you trade for it? That really determines value, there is not much I have that I would be willing to trade for the AMT, but it looks like a good pistol. I am about to buy an entry level 1911, (I have 5 already) a Para Ordnance GI Expert for $469 + tax, new. I still think that is too much, I'm cheap, can't stand paying asking price. It would make a good project pistol.
 
I bought my Hardballer used, in 1988, from a gun show. It's the Long Slide version. So I've had it and shot it, cleaned it and maintained it for more than 20 years.

So all the folks on the 'net who are plumb positive that my pistol is pure junk are at best, laughable.

No argument with the fact that a lot of AMT products had real problems. No argument with the fact that many, maybe even MOST people think there are complete turds. The reputation is warranted and has been justly earned.

But if you think you know all of them and you think you know that all of them are trash, you don't know your butt from a hole in the ground no matter how loudly you scream it in a discussion forum.

Many folks back in the day had issues and sent them back to the factory and got very good pistols back. It was absolutely erratic. But some of the attitudes of former owners (and folks who merely read posts and regurgitate someone else's opinion) must have had teenage daughters knocked up by Harry Sanford. :rolleyes:

On mine, the barrel bushing was loose and had too much play. I replaced it with a Kart National Match bushing. Later, I replaced the OEM recoil spring with an 18# Wilson spring. (that was 15 years after I bought it!) I had to adjust the extractor a year ago. That all of it... in 22 years of shooting.

I don't feed it Gold Dot or Cor-Bon. It eats 200 grain H&G68 LSWC and it eats 200 grain plated SWC and plated flat nose. I haven't fed it hardball since 1992.

The AMT reputation is well earned and I don't begrudge anyone for being skeptical about these pistols. But the bottom line is that if you think you know it all, you don't -- and you don't know mine. This pistol runs and it's the most accurate center fire semi-auto handgun that I own.
 
I traqded my 10-8 for it and 4 mags and 250 rounds of ammo, and a nice leather Galco holster. All the mags are Chip McCormock.
 
Hi all is it me or has anyone else noticed tha the AMTs that run are said to be very accurate I have a longslide that I picked up in about 1984 and aside from replaceing the trigger (personl likes) the slide release (my thomb would ride on it and not let the slide lock back not the guns prob.) the gun has been very good, I had a colt NM from the 30s at the time I got it so when I found the amt I thought looks like a NM I could shoot with out worry about value the funny thing is the amt would out shoot the colt and it would eat any round you would feed it the colt not so, are they colt no but I will keep the one I have I like it YMMV .........wayne
 
S&W 10-8, 1982 vintage, 4in blued .38spl. I threw in a speed loader, but kept the range bag! :}
Whew!! You scared me!

Don't worry about what people are saying about Hardballers. If you know and like the gun then more power to you. I've had a number of AMT products and haven't been disappointed yet. In fact, I've still got a NIB/unfired Hardballer Longslide and a NIB/unfired Automag V in the closet.
 
10-8 is about a $150-$250 gun depending on condition, so its a straight up deal.

Now if is it was a model 15 with target hammer, sights , trigger , I would keep the 15.
 
Anyone who can get a 10-8 for that cheap should buy 12....mine was valued (by other sales) at around $350.00. And the Hardballer is valued at up to 550.
 
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Don't let the naysayers put you off; if the Hardballer you're getting runs good already, then you're way ahead of the game as far as reliability goes with something made by AMT. Like I said earlier, I used to work on a friends Hardballer awhile ago. He wanted a beavertail grip safety added because of the occasional hammer bite he would get. I also did a trigger job on it, as well as replace the mainspring and recoil spring. The downside to the gun was that all the internal parts were rather rough and very poorly finished, and any hand fitting of just about all the parts looked to be pretty much non-existant.

Aside from that though the gun itself was quite accurate; however it was limited to just 230 gr. hardball. Anything else usually produced frequent FTF's; even trying several different magazines didn't yield any better results. Never had any problems with the stainless steel that was used to make the frame and the slide. Everything worked just fine and the gun held up really well, even after years of use at the range. Hope yours works out as well for you.
 
Like many have said, the HB can be an accurate gun. In 1911s, that means it has a good barrel and lock up. They are a bit funky and do have a deserved bad rep for quality control. It seems that they were assembled and not fit. They were assembled by folks that didn't know how to build 1911 style autoloaders and that was largely the problem IMO. Mine is as accurate a 1911 as I own and I have several as I've mentioned. But the fitting during assembly was not done on many or most of these pistols unfortunately. I did replace my sear spring but not much else that I recall. I used to blow the center out of many an NRA 50 ft. slow fire pistol target with mine with 200 gn SWC or 230 gn RNL bullets. It would make a 1" ragged hole in the center all day long, so that is something. One other thing, the elevation screw on the Millet adjustable rear sight has a tendency to back out from shooting and will fall right out, so I am trying some blue thread lock to see if that will cure it. The screw is hard to find now that Millett is out of the iron sight business. I may trade it some day, but the fact that it is such a target killer gives me a little reluctancy just yet.
 
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