Anyone used the Ghost Gunner CNC machine?

[Ryanxia]

Anyone used the Ghost Gunner CNC Machine? The gen 2 is coming out and I'm contemplating getting one. Not a whole lot of first hand information on them though. It appears that aside from the 80% lowers, other similarly sized or smaller aluminum items can be programmed (hopefully using CAD) and created.

https://www.ghostgunner.net/

 

[RainDodger]

I understand that it can also machine AR-10 lowers. I've been contemplating one recently. 3 of us are thinking of buying one in partnership.

 

[Acera]

RainDoger, a group of us were thinking about the same thing a year or so ago. We found from reading rulings from the BATFE regarding the use of others tools to complete one that we needed to be part of a legal entity.

We considered using an online trust template, with all as trustees. Might be something that you and your buddies look into.

 

[Ryanxia]

A Trust would be a good way to go but even if you didn't if you all chipped in on the machine you would all have a partial ownership of it. The ATF can be as big of pains as they want when it comes to firearms but they have limited reach to property outside of that (like machinery).

 

[dh1633pm]

I was going to buy one, but just haven't had the time. I guess I need to get off my butt and order one.

 

[TRX]

The "Ghost Gunner" is just a hobbyist gantry router with some preinstalled software and a fancy marketing plan.

There are other ways. http://mujahadeenar15a2.tripod.com/

 

[hdwhit]

...3 of us are thinking of buying one in partnership.

From the Ghost Gunner website's FAQs:

Under federal law, manufacturing firearms for purpose of sale and distribution without an FFL is prohibited. Without an FFL, you should manufacture firearms for personal use only. Recent ATF determinations have signaled that allowing others use of your CNC equipment may itself constitute manufacturing, therefore Ghost Gunner advises GG owners to neither print firearms for other individuals, nor allow other individuals to use their Ghost Gunner to manufacture firearms without the advice of counsel.

Since the partnership would own the Ghost Gunner machine, it doesn't seem that it would be available to the partners individually for "personal use". I think their advice to consult an attorney is quite appropriate.

 

[bullzeye8]

Since the partnership would own the Ghost Gunner machine, it doesn't seem that it would be available to the partners individually for "personal use". I think their advice to consult an attorney is quite appropriate.

I'm no expert but it sounds to me like they all own it which means they can all use it for their personal use.

 

[Acera]

Seeing 3D printers for around $1K these days. Wonder if the plastic they use is comparable to other polymer lowers.

https://3dprinter.dremel.com/




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[Indawind]

After you "use" it, sell it to someone for a buck. Bill of sale I think might make it "official"

Maybe not but I would think a documented sale would solve an ownership problem. I does for most other things.

 

[1911 guy]

I looked at machine capacity. That's insanely small. For milling aluminum, I'd opt for a tabletop mill from any of the cheap companies and have more capacity and versatility.