AP Article RE Lockyer/ Silvera case

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Women, Jews, Others Join Pro-Gun Effort


WASHINGTON (AP) - The National Rifle Association has plenty of company in
a
major gun rights case that the Supreme Court is considering hearing.

Among the organizations that have joined the case are the Pink Pistols, a
group of gay and lesbian gun owners; the Second Amendment Sisters; and
Jews for
the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. They are asking the court to
consider
if the Constitution's Second Amendment guarantees the right to own a gun.

At issue is an appeal filed this summer by some rugby teammates and
friends
who challenged California's assault weapons ban. They lost at the 9th U.S.

Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, which ruled the Constitution
protects
gun rights of militias but not individuals.

Their lawyer, Gary Gorski of Fair Oaks, Calif., mainly expected to receive

support from conservative, male-dominated organizations. Instead,
friend-of-the-court briefs backing the appeal were filed by two women's
groups, the Jewish
organization, a doctors' group and the gay gun owners.

``Women Against Gun Control asks this court to give due regard to the
interest of women in equalizing things, be it in the workplace or a dark
parking
lot,'' lawyer Howard J. Fezell of Frederick, Md., told the court in a
filing.

Pink Pistols lawyer Lisa Steele of Bolton, Mass., said justices have an
opportunity to save the lives of gays who face hate crimes. A gun will
help them
``lawfully defend themselves against would-be gay bashers,'' she wrote.

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership reminded the court that
German Jews were barred from having firearms before the Holocaust.

``The tragic history of civilian disarmament cries a warning against any
systematic attempts to render innocent citizens ill-equipped to defend
themselves
from tyrant terrorists, despots or oppressive majorities,'' wrote the
group's
lawyer, Daniel Schmutter of Paramus, N.J.

NRA lawyers, in their filing this month, said that the right of people
``to
keep and bear arms is a bedrock feature of the Anglo-American legal
tradition.''

California has not filed a response to the appeal. But the state defended,
in
the lower court, defended its ban of 75 high-powered weapons with
rapid-fire
capabilities.

The Supreme Court, after returning from the summer break, should announce
this fall whether it will hear the case.

The case is Silveira v. Lockyer, 03-51.
 
Originally posted by Mark Tyson
Good article - no commentary or anything, just the facts. This will get the news out about non-traditional gun rights groups uniting to defend the 2nd. Join or die . . .
Not true. This isn't the NRA's case. In fact they were opposing it up until recently.
 
Wouldnt it have been proper to include mention of the disparity between the 5th Circuit's Pro-individual ruling and the 9th's Anti-individual ruling?

Kharn
 
God Bless the 9th Circuit. They're so radically left, they'll implode and when they do, our rights will be acknowledged. :)
 
4v50 Gary:
Sometimes it seems like the Supreme Court would enjoy drop-kicking the 9th Circuit squarely in the privates for all their stupid rulings. Hopefully they give'em a nice good one with a #12 steel-toed boot this time around. :D

Kharn
 
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that the article makes it seem like it's the NRA's case. I certainly did when I read it. Now I know I wasn't just paranoid. :)
 
eventually with the differnces between the 5th and 9th the Supremes will be forced to hear a 2A case...

now the article states that

"Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, which ruled the Constitution
protects gun rights of militias but not individuals"

well then a militia should be allowed to own guns right ? and if we take this to the logical extreme of "all able bodied males" and the militia act etc.

this could be the biggest loophole in legislative history !

I'll take my M4 in basic black with 20 extra magazines please... in basic black.

any thoughts?
 
ElToro:
Thats been one of my theories for all the militia hoopla during the Clinton years: The media and the White House played it like guns were only for the militia, so people went out and formed militias.

Kharn
 
so people went out and formed militias.
And then the Militias were demonized by the Klintonized media, and lots of good folks quit,not to mention that any Militia had at least 1, if not 2, informers...
 
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