Standing Wolf
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The leftist extremists have a virtually unlimited supply of the tax payers' dollars to play with: another reason they can afford to lose most of the time and win once in awhile.
Appeals court rules San Francisco gun ban null and void.
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The leftist extremists have a virtually unlimited supply of the tax payers' dollars to play with: another reason they can afford to lose most of the time and win once in awhile.
Jeffreii
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ALL RIGHT!!!!
One down, Five thousand two hundred and sixty eight to go
Article on this from CRPA
http://www.crpa.org/showpages.aspx?pid=1379
One down, Five thousand two hundred and sixty eight to go
Article on this from CRPA
http://www.crpa.org/showpages.aspx?pid=1379
FieroCDSP
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It takes time for the Brady's to work up their spin to these things. It's not enough that they lost, or that it was to the Cali gunnies with the NRA supporting them. They have to have time to throw in all of the usual dribble about how malls are now more dangerous, the children are going to be mowed down in the street, and that there are still absolutely no reasons to own a gun, despite the courts saying otherwise.
Jeffreii
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LAR-15: that is a state bill, AB-50, not a city one. Unfortunately, CA still thinks it is too much of a [IMMINENT!!] threat from terrorists using a 50 BMG on any Californian resident or infrastructure and chose to just make it a non-issue to worry about by simply outlawing them. Bin Laden and his league of bandits will just have to use something else if attacking CA. (note -its not 50 cal but the specific 50 BMG round and weapons that use them. 50-70's, SW500, etc are legal there)
alan
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USAFNoDAk wrote, quoting my comment:
The antis likely will not give up, and neither can/should our side. This is a battle that must be fought again and again, or at least till the other guys surrender, a situation that I for one do not see happening
When we lose a fight, we begin lose our guns, our possessions, our hobbies, our passions, our rights, etc. etc. If the anti's lose a fight, they've lost nothing. Thus, it's easy for them to continue to roll the dice as often as they wish, because they have nothing to lose, except maybe their "feelings of safety". Silly dunderheads, if they were smart, they'd realize that gun control and gun bans DO NOT increase their safety. But to them, it's all about "feelings" for the most part.
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With respect, might I offer the following, re the anti's. It’s not in the least a question of intelligence or of "being smart" as you put it, rather it is the following.
The antis simply don’t trust, and look down upon us ordinary types, as we are so damned dumb, by their lights, as to try to and or insist on maintaining such old fashioned concepts as CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, as well as adhering to such other old fashioned concepts as FACTS, one such being that 2 + 2 = 4. Mind, not all gun owners adhere to such concepts, though some do.
Additionally, our adhering to old fashioned concepts interferes with the anti's never ending quest for power. They really, push coming to shove, respecting the movers and shakers of "anti gunism", do not care all that much about particular issues, other than that one particular issue, that at a particular juncture in time and circumstances that might prove handy, as something on which to hang their hats. They, like the Pro Lifers, no I do not want to argue that, simply want one thing and one thing only, that being POWER, the ability to tell you what you might do, when you might do it and how you should do it. In my perhaps jaundiced, view, that is the one point that must never be overlooked.
As to their coming back again and again, as another poster noted, they have taxpayers money to play with. This is true, especially respecting the fact that people keep electing these clowns to public office.
The antis likely will not give up, and neither can/should our side. This is a battle that must be fought again and again, or at least till the other guys surrender, a situation that I for one do not see happening
When we lose a fight, we begin lose our guns, our possessions, our hobbies, our passions, our rights, etc. etc. If the anti's lose a fight, they've lost nothing. Thus, it's easy for them to continue to roll the dice as often as they wish, because they have nothing to lose, except maybe their "feelings of safety". Silly dunderheads, if they were smart, they'd realize that gun control and gun bans DO NOT increase their safety. But to them, it's all about "feelings" for the most part.
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With respect, might I offer the following, re the anti's. It’s not in the least a question of intelligence or of "being smart" as you put it, rather it is the following.
The antis simply don’t trust, and look down upon us ordinary types, as we are so damned dumb, by their lights, as to try to and or insist on maintaining such old fashioned concepts as CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, as well as adhering to such other old fashioned concepts as FACTS, one such being that 2 + 2 = 4. Mind, not all gun owners adhere to such concepts, though some do.
Additionally, our adhering to old fashioned concepts interferes with the anti's never ending quest for power. They really, push coming to shove, respecting the movers and shakers of "anti gunism", do not care all that much about particular issues, other than that one particular issue, that at a particular juncture in time and circumstances that might prove handy, as something on which to hang their hats. They, like the Pro Lifers, no I do not want to argue that, simply want one thing and one thing only, that being POWER, the ability to tell you what you might do, when you might do it and how you should do it. In my perhaps jaundiced, view, that is the one point that must never be overlooked.
As to their coming back again and again, as another poster noted, they have taxpayers money to play with. This is true, especially respecting the fact that people keep electing these clowns to public office.
50 Shooter
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Don't foget... we got around the .50 BMG ban with the 50 DTC. 
Let's not forget that we also got around the AW ban with OLL's.
They might have us down but CA gun owners are fighting back, remember when you throw your hate our way all you're doing is preaching to the choir. We hate the political scene here also but the Dems have a strangle hold on CA. Voting them out will take more then just the gun owners, waking the sheeple is the key but I fear they are all in permanent hibernation.
I thought that the CRPA making claims that they actually did something was hilarious.
Let's not forget that we also got around the AW ban with OLL's.
They might have us down but CA gun owners are fighting back, remember when you throw your hate our way all you're doing is preaching to the choir. We hate the political scene here also but the Dems have a strangle hold on CA. Voting them out will take more then just the gun owners, waking the sheeple is the key but I fear they are all in permanent hibernation.
I thought that the CRPA making claims that they actually did something was hilarious.
Winchester 73
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SF can appeal to the California Supreme Court,which would be a waste of more time and money, whether appealing before or after the Heller decision.
With their Looney Tune Mayor and Council though, anything is possible.
With their Looney Tune Mayor and Council though, anything is possible.
I doubt that San Francisco will appeal to the State Supreme Court. Everyone pretty much knew that the proposition was a loser from the beginning.
QuarterBoreGunner
Member
Very true; pretty much everyone from the Mayor on down knew this was going to be resolved exactly the way it was. What a waste of my tax money.
Deavis
Member
Forcing their values on you with your own money. There is no sweeter deal than government. A monopoly on force and a bottomless war chest.
Nobody's_Hero
Member
It's too bad they can't fine the city for imposing these bans. I mean, they can theoretically keep imposing those bans and it takes so long for the wheels of the judicial branch to start turning, SF officials could just wait until this cools off and try it yet again. 
Of course, if you fine the city, then your city tax dollars would just go to the state. Hmmm.... Maybe fire the city officials for continuous breach of freedoms.
Of course, if you fine the city, then your city tax dollars would just go to the state. Hmmm.... Maybe fire the city officials for continuous breach of freedoms.Nobody's_Hero
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That too, I hadn't considered it. I'm sure even just the effort does look good for them, and it makes the Supreme Court of California look like a bunch of demons.
Been out of town for a few days and it's always great to return to good news. Didn't have a computer with me and I heard nothing of this on national news. Wonder why that is so?
Also wonder where GOA was on this? NRA and SAF seem to work together just fine, just like they did in New Orleans.
Also wonder where GOA was on this? NRA and SAF seem to work together just fine, just like they did in New Orleans.
Wild Deuce
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Check my post number 23. You wouldn't know anyone else was involved by reading the NRA press release.
TexasRifleman
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Apparently GOA had nothing to do with this. From SAFs press release:
But WildDeuce is right, you never see any other group mentioned in NRA press releases.
But WildDeuce is right, you never see any other group mentioned in NRA press releases.
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Winchester 73
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guil2000
Good to see you here.Went on a job to the Middle East if I recall 3 years ago.
Remember you from your excellent moderator chores on the late PDO.
Glad you're safely back.
Good to see you here.Went on a job to the Middle East if I recall 3 years ago.
Remember you from your excellent moderator chores on the late PDO.
Glad you're safely back.
alan
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Nobody's_Hero wrote:
It's too bad they can't fine the city for imposing these bans. I mean, they can theoretically keep imposing those bans and it takes so long for the wheels of the judicial branch to start turning, SF officials could just wait until this cools off and try it yet again. Of course, if you fine the city, then your city tax dollars would just go to the state. Hmmm.... Maybe fire the city officials for continuous breach of freedoms.
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They were elected, can't be "fired", recalled via recall election or petition, perhaps, fired, not really. Recalls are expensive or can be, and the provision for such are usually limited to Western states, California would be one such. Otherwise, perhaps civil suits for damages arising out of intereferencse with citizens civil rights might work, but that is simply a wild guess or perhaps an example of wishful thinking. I believe that it would turn out to be that elected things benefit from "immunity" for actions arising from their lawful duties, which here would or might be the enactment of law, whether or not the law enacted made any sense whatever being beside the point.
It's too bad they can't fine the city for imposing these bans. I mean, they can theoretically keep imposing those bans and it takes so long for the wheels of the judicial branch to start turning, SF officials could just wait until this cools off and try it yet again. Of course, if you fine the city, then your city tax dollars would just go to the state. Hmmm.... Maybe fire the city officials for continuous breach of freedoms.
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They were elected, can't be "fired", recalled via recall election or petition, perhaps, fired, not really. Recalls are expensive or can be, and the provision for such are usually limited to Western states, California would be one such. Otherwise, perhaps civil suits for damages arising out of intereferencse with citizens civil rights might work, but that is simply a wild guess or perhaps an example of wishful thinking. I believe that it would turn out to be that elected things benefit from "immunity" for actions arising from their lawful duties, which here would or might be the enactment of law, whether or not the law enacted made any sense whatever being beside the point.
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