Are there any single stuck subcompact real DA pistols?

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Kahrs aren't real DAO. The striker is well over half cocked, the trigger pull is relatively short compared to a DA trigger and is only 7 pounds. The only real difference between it and a Glock is the lack of a sear break and the length of reset.

I would never use a Kahr without a holster.
 
Right, in a DAO pistol if the round does not fire you could just pull the trigger again and get a full strike of the hammer or striker which will not happen with a Glock or Kahr.

I think the KelTec P11 also has a true DAO trigger.
 
The Kel-tec P11 which has the heavy, true DA pull has a double stack magazine. While the PF9 is their single stack model and has a light trigger pull because it is pre-cocked.
 
If by "DA" you mean second strike capable, then it goes to a discussion of why it's needed. With that in mind, there are actually few pistols that offer the capability, and dollars are outvoting the guns which do have it.

There is no guarantee a round that will not go off with a first strike can with a second. Ejecting it and reloading will still be necessary. With a revolver that will happen as the cylinder turns, leaving the suspect round in the gun to come up again.

Frankly, the odds of a round not going off are less than getting into an armed confrontation, which are also pretty slim. And that is why most cycle their carry ammo thru the gun at the range instead of letting it ride for month after month. It keeps fresh ammo in the stack which hasn't been exposed to moisture or the environment.

Guns need to have certain features - like, a trigger - it boils down to which ones are preferred by ranking them in importance. Does a last shot slide hold open rank higher than a magazine disconnect, or does a second strike capability rank higher than night sights? Up to the user, but in a lot of cases we see the results of what the public currently considers important by what gets included and marketed with the gun.

Second strike capability doesn't really even exist in revolvers - and there is a perspective it's a gimmick in pistols.
 
If by "DA" you mean second strike capable, then it goes to a discussion of why it's needed.

Want over need is one reason I like second strike guns. In the event I can only use one hand to operate a self defense gun, and I'm in high stress mode with someone on top of me, then perhaps a second strike on a cartridge might make the difference.

I like things that possibly may benefit me in worst case situations, no matter how slim the chance of it happening.

Of course, not all guns I own are DAO, but when possible I do prefer DAO guns for my pocket carry of the day.
 
Kahrs aren't real DAO. The striker is well over half cocked, the trigger pull is relatively short compared to a DA trigger and is only 7 pounds. The only real difference between it and a Glock is the lack of a sear break and the length of reset.

I would never use a Kahr without a holster.

By definition, the Kahr trigger is double-action (which granted, has a very loose definition). However, it is not second-strike capable.

I wouldn't carry ANY pistol without a holster. If you want to pocket-carry, they make pocket holsters for that.
 
That's fine. But the question was just looking for firearms with reasonably long and firm trigger pulls. I don't really care how anything ought to be classified, just that it has a trigger more like a revolver or Beretta, and not short and light like a Glock or Kahr.
 
I'm actually quite interested in the Remington R380 but I'm so afraid to buy one that it may never happen. Knowing that it's thicker than my Taurus TCP helps take some of the mystery away.
 
I know you seem to be dismissive of Kahr's, but my CM9 has been flawless and conceals easily. Most consider the trigger pull to be rather long compared compared to a Glock and other striker fired pistols, although it is smooth. Mine is quite accurate too.
 
I own a Kahr. It is a nice gun, but the trigger is too light for what I consider ideal.
 
Here's mine. I guess there could be a debate as to whether it is compact or subcompact. It is small enough to wear on a Galco ankle holster...

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The Beretta Pico is DAO, and has a second strike capability. It's a 380, but it's small and super-flat, has great sights, and a pretty darn stiff trigger. The price is good on them too, around 280 even at Gander. There were some early-model issues that seem to be worked out now, though my early one seems pretty solid. I will warn you that it is quite stiff to rack the slide-my lady doesn't like it.
 
The R9 has excellent double action trigger pull. It is far, far superior to my S&W J-framed DAO revolver.
 
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