Back from my first hunt, results/lessons learned.

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itgoesboom

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So, as mentioned in a previous thread, I went for my first Elk hunt today. It was actually my first anything hunt.

We started out hiking a logging road that went around and over some clear cuts in the forest, where we found some game trails and elk and deer tracks. This was a good spot for me to get the basics of what to look for, what the game trails look like, what Elk rubbings look like, the difference between Elk and Deer droppings and such.

After covering that area, and finding nothing, and no fresh Elk sign, we moved on up the road.

We attempted to call some Elk up from the top of a ridge, and got a weak response from somewhere quite a ways off. It was the only response we got all day from calling.

So then we hiked up another old forest road, that was overgrown and showed some fairly fresh sign. We saw quite a few branches knocked back, lots of rubbings, and quite a few bear scratches.

My hunting partner also had a Black Bear tag, so this meant that instead of just having one animal that we could look for, we had 2 species that we could go after....I just couldn't shoot the 2nd.

There was quite a bit of bear sign, all the way up the road, including some very fresh scat and scratches that looked very fresh. My hunting partner figures that the bear either had just come through this area just before we got there, or had heard us and scampered off.

As we moved through the area, we found quite a big of more sign, both Elk and Bear, but we didn't find any animals there.

After that we tracked some fresh Elk tracks up into the brush off the road one direction, until we got to an area that was too dense to get through. After getting on the road again, we found more tracks going the other way, so we tracked that direction too. Same result. Lots of fresh tracks, lots of branches knocked down, but too dense for us to move quietly.

Our last hike was up another logging road, were we found more bear and elk sign, as well as quite a bit of deer sign, very fresh. That was a little disapointing, since we could tell there was a big buck in the group, but it isn't deer season. But, on the bright side there was really fresh coyote scat amongst it, so we tried for that.

In the end, we didn't get the Coyote, we didn't get the Bear, and we didn't get an Elk. But I did have fun, and I learned a lot. My hunting partner did a great job showing me the ropes, showing me a couple different tactics for hunting, and we got close to some Elk, Bear, Deer, and Coyote.

Lessons Learned:

1. Most important is I need my own hunting rifle. The one I borrowed was nice, and is accurate, but I need my own hunting rifle. My SKS and CETME just won't cut it.

2. I need a good pair of binoculars. I used a pair of binoculars that my hunting partner had, and they were good, but were tough to use with my glasses. So this and a binocular harness are needed.

3. I need to work through my equipment and find what snags on what, what gets in the way of other equipment. My left side pocket kept snagging my rifle bolt when I would unsling, making it tough to unsling quickly.

4. Don't trust the weatherman. Forcast called for 10% chance of rain, with the forcast being mostly sunny where we were hunting. But when we got there we ended up with a large downpour for awhile, and we had lots of fog.

5. I need a good backpack. Something that can hold gloves, a knife and sharpener, bone saw, water, extra ammo, any extra clothes that I need to carry and a small emergency kit.

6. Plastic orange vests are noisy. I think I will pick up a fleece one before next season. Instead of the plastic, I used a orange hat, but I think I would have prefered a vest and to use my bush hat.

7. I need to scout an area prior to hunting it. We had to make a last minute change to our plan the night before the hunt, so we were hunting a new area, with no previous scouting, and spending only one day hunting. Next year I will try to scout out atleast twice, and it would be good to set up a GPS for this as well.

8. Fitness. I held my own today, but I know it would have been a stretch to hike out meat from some of the better areas today. Very rough country. I need to continue to work out, and increase my fitness.

9. Time. I need more time. We felt pressured because we only had a day to do all the hunting I will do this year. Thats tough, especially going after elk. Next year I want to spend a few days in the back country, hiking and hunting.

10. I need a good knife for field dressing. That and a sharpening stone.

11. I suck at calling. I practiced my calls prior to going, but I didn't practice saturday, and when I went to call, my cow call left a lot to be desired. I need to practice more, and maybe pick up a better call or two.

12. Range estimation. On flat lands, I was pretty accurate. Across ravines, valles, and looking downhill, I was seriously off. My friend and I both guessed one distance at 300-400, and it turned out to be 600+. So a range finder is an item that I would like to pick up, finances allowing. Practice at ranging would be good too.

All in all it was a good day, and what I really needed. A good learning experience.

I.G.B.
 
It sounds like you had a great time. I've never been elk or bear hunting. But what I say is every hunt is a success. If nothing else I always learn something. It also sounds like you can't wait to go next year. and thats a good thing!! Always have a plan to remove what you might shoot. I know of a few guys that were so excited to shoot something that once they did they thought oh ship how are we going to get to this animal, or get it out of here. If I can't get to it or get it out before it spoiles(if the weather is warm)I will not take the shot. Good Luck and great to here from you! :)
 
Sounds like a good trip

Sounds like you had a good time on your hunt. Also sounds like you came away with some very practical insights and lessons learned. All good things. I just wish I could see my way clear to spend more time and money hunting the animals and places I've always wanted to. Out west is one of those places and elk is one of those animals.
 
Good show

Yap, I'm still fairly new to hunting, and I learn a lot every time. I also end up with many more new questions unanswered each trip than before. :mad: Yes, you need lots and lots more time. And sounds like you could use the same thing I want and am saving up for:

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/LEU54580/leupold_8x32_rangefinder_binocular.htm

Right now they are two units. Yes, the neoprene harnesses are very useful to keep close to your chest while going about. But the range-finder is currently separate in the fanny pack. Would be (will be) very nice to have them combined into one with the Loopie Wind River unit. I looked at the Bushnell combo, but it's too large, and over-powered for a general use binoc - the Leupold looks just about right.
 
GunGoBoom,

Those are a little out of my price range. I just don't have that kind of extra money laying around unfortunatly.

My priorities will be: Rifle (Savage or Reminton 700 in .30/06, already have a scope), Binoculars and harness, Orange Vest, Knife, Backpack, and then the rangefinder and maybe a GPS unit.

Some additional lessons that I learned that I forgot to post.

#13. Flexibility. This goes along with fitness, but is somewhat seperate. We needed to bend and flex, and duck and such while trying to get under branches while not disturbing them. I really need to be more flexible.

#14. Bipods. Great tool, and it's my preferred way of shooting a rifle. But I found a couple of downsides. First, the bipod gets caught on quite a bit of stuff. And to make it worse, any time a twig, branch, or even a leaf would brush the spring, you would hear a very unnatural springy sound.

#15. Boots. I am really glad I had a good pair of boots. I think that a good pair of boots is one of the most important pieces of gear now.

I.G.B.
 
Knife - Get a Buck 110. Its a classic folder and you can pick them up from $29.99-49.99.

Boots - I use Danner hiking boots. Very comfortable and they provide a lot of support but they are a bit heavy and require hiking in to get used to. Would like something lighter in the future.

Backpack - Just got a new backpack from LL Bean - its a top loading day pack. FIlled it out this weekend to see what could fit and it got everything vital in with some room to spare (and was easily cinched down). Also it came in orange - not day glow hunter orange but still a pretty good shade none the less and it doesn't look funny walking around town with either. Its got a space for a camelback bladder and I would highly recommend that.

Time - we all need more time.:banghead:

Sounds like a good time was had by all!!!
 
Every hunting trip is a education. Some of my best hunting days have been the ones when you see no game. keep looking at the deerscrapes , droppings ect and in the end it all comes together. I have a pair of long German binoculars that have served as a bipod on many hunting trips.
 
Two quotes:

"The hunting is always good, and sometimes we get to shoot (insert game species here)."

"When the hammer falls the fun ends and the work begins."

Scouting is the most important thing you can do. Bambi or Smokey or Mr. Elk live there 24/7/365. You need to know they area as well as him. Besides it a great excuse just out get out in the woods. :D

Glad you enjoyed it, now you need to recruit another 2 or 3.....
 
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My Two Cents on Your Priorities

itgoesboom said:
My priorities will be: Rifle (Savage or Reminton 700 in .30/06, already have a scope), Binoculars and harness, Orange Vest, Knife, Backpack, and then the rangefinder and maybe a GPS unit.

Congrats on having a great time, and learning a TON of things in just one day! If I may, let me give my .02 on your priorities, given that you're on a budget:

Rifle - go with the Savage bolt action, with Accutrigger. Remingtons are great guns, but Savages cost less and are very accurate rifles.

Binos - if you don't go the combo bino/rangefinder route, you can get very good 8x42 binos from Bushnell, Nikon, or Leupold for about $300. You can glass through them all day.....10x might be a little too much, given some of the areas you described are very thick and brushy.

Knife - lots of quality knives out there for less than $100 (some less than $50), with a good edge they'll all do a great job - but remember, a DULL knife can prove to me more dangerous than your firearm!

Good luck, whatever you choose - and welcome to the fraternity of hunters and sportsmen!

Michael
 
IGB, I'll give you a couple of things that I've learnt from hunting.

#1 A good pair of well broken-in boots are very, very important - sounds like you've already found that out.

#2 A good knife is very handy - I like to have about a 4" fixed blade drop point knife made of good steel. It needs to hold a good edge, be comfortable to use and be (relatively) cheap - I can't begin to tell you how bad you will feel if you lose your $300 custom made hunting knife.

#3 A backpack is a good idea for carrying extra gear but they also provide the temptation to take more stuff than you need. Think carefully before putting each item into your backpack - you'll be carrying it all day.

#4 I wear a sturdy leather belt with my knife, my survival pouch and spare ammo wallet on it and that belt never leaves my waist until I get back to the car. If I am separated from my backpack I have the bare essentials for survival. My survival pack is a smallish waxed canvas pouch that contains a survival blanket, a card-type compass, a folding knife (a mercator is excellent), a knife sharpener, some light cord, a couple of candle stubs, a lighter and/or waterproof matches, a few barley sugar sweets, a couple of aspirin, some med tape, a bandage, a small flashlight, a couple of 1" strips of tyre inner tube (loops) - can be used in figure 8 to hold boots on if boot lace breaks or if you need boot laces for tying something else, can be used for lashing splints to limbs etc, can be cut and used to start a fire. I see this list as being the absolute minimum kit to ensure I can light a fire, see at night, perform rudimentary 1st aid on myself or another (stop bleeding, immobilise limbs, dull some pain, tape blisters), build a shelter and will help me either get myself out of trouble or help me survive long enough to be found -its not so bulky and heavy that its a pain to carry and will be left behind.

#5 small 8x magnification binoculars can be very handy - a compromise between magnification, field of view, ease of holding steady and size.

#6 I like to dress in layers so that I can adjust my clothing to the weather conditions easily - greater flexibility in temperature control and comfort. Hats can really help to prevent heat loss - most of your heat loss is thru your head.

#7 Don't forget to carry some water.

#8 Make sure someone reliable knows where you're going and when you expect to be back and what to do if you don't contact them - and most importantly let that person know that you have returned safely!!

Spinner
 
In addition to what has been said already:

Get a sharpening steel, and learn to use it. A steel will put a better edge on your knife, is easier and cleaner to use, and will make it easier to touch up the edge on your knife as well.
 
itgoesboom - Sounds like a fine time and it just whet your appetite for next time.

Spinner -
a couple of 1" strips of tyre inner tube (loops) - can be used in figure 8 to hold boots on if boot lace breaks or if you need boot laces for tying something else, can be used for lashing splints to limbs etc, can be cut and used to start a fire.
Great idea. I'm adding some to my pack.
 
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