Barrel fluting

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Stealther, I try not to waste words, so I wish you had read all of mine; 1- check Shilen website , first question under Q&A, 2- stress relief is done by heating.

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I wish you had read MY post before you made your reply, here is a recap

If I did understand you, do you believe it is possible to obtain (using a heat process) the benefits/claims of people performing the cryo processes? If so, what is this process and could you refer us to a company that performs it?

No need to get snotty, my post was complementary and I was simply requesting clarification and for you to go into more detail on possible heat treatment processes as an alternative to cryo treating. If that chip on your shoulder wasn't so big, you might have read that. :rolleyes:
 
Its not the chip it's the patience wearing thin. To repeat a posting, stress relieving of steel is usually done between 900F and 1200F.If there are stresses in the barrel they will be relieved. Try to find a heat treat shop that knows something about guns. How much that would improve accuracy depends on the stresses. I would make no other claims ,that is wear resistance etc.
 
Regarding fluting a barrel...

It seems to me that much of the stress imparted in a barrel comes from the method of machining used.

For instance, I have observed many times over the years that metal "bends" when it is machined in a certain manner. Lets use a keyway on a pumpshaft for an example. Sometimes milling a large keyway on one side of the pumpshaft causes the metal to bend in the direction of the keyway because the internal stresses that were put into the metal when formed are now uneven due to one side of the shaft being relieved.

Taking a piece of square precision keystock and sawing one side of it to make it rectangular will often result in the piece bending.

There are many examples of metal objects relieving themselves when machined.

I have also observed barrels that were being manufactured with fluting on them and have thougt that proccess was somewhat flawed. Most manufacturers will use a CNC lathe to flute the barrels as it is quick and accurate. What they will do is to cut a flute, turn the barrel 60 degrees (on a 6 flute barrel)cut another flute and work it around the barrel until complete. It seems to me that this allows an uneven relief of the natural stresses in the barrel which allows it to bend some.

I beleive if they used an opposing method, meaning that the barrel is cut and then turned to the opposite side and then a flute cut, and done this way each time a flute is cut that it would balance out the stresses that are built up in the steel through the manufacturing proccess. It may be that the Cryo treament is allowing the stresses in the barrel to normalize somewhat and balance itself out.

I dont claim to know anything about the chemcial makeup of steel or whether it has molecules or not, but I wonder if there is too much emphasis played on the chemcial and physical aspects of the steel and not enough about the way we handle barrels of precision rifles when they are being machined.

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The only PRACTICAL benefit from fluting a barrel is the weight savings. A well made barrel, whether cryo treated or not will last thousands of rounds and give more accuracy than most people are able to ring out of their rifles.
 
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