Berry's Bullets

[Hardatwork]

I an trying to save some money and was looking in to loading 45 ACP with Berry's Plated bullets I see on there site that there bullets for 45 Cal. are 452" .I thought that a 45 ACP was 451" in size can anyone explain this to me.

Thanks

 

[Dean Williams]

Plated bullets should be loaded as for plain cast, as far as I know, and that is the regular cast bullet size.

I've used many thousands of Berry's bullets over the years. Always a good product.

 

[Hardatwork]

What do most reloaders use when it comes to Berry's plated bullets normal plated or the double struck in 45 auto. or is there some other plated bullet that is more popular.

 

[Remo-99]

I see on there site that there bullets for 45 Cal. are 452" .I thought that a 45 ACP was 451" in size can anyone explain this to me.

Some bullets, namely lead are .001" oversized to seal better and give better accuracy.
Berry's are copper-electroplated lead, not like a true copper jacketed lead bullet, which are normally .451"

I an trying to save some money and was looking in to loading 45 ACP

If you want to save even more $, Hardcast 230gr RN's are cheaper.

 

[Walkalong]

Plated bullets are soft lead cored and are usually .452. The Berrys bullets shoot great in .45.

 

[arizona98tj]

I use their double struck bullets in both 9mm and 45ACP.

 

[rfwobbly]

I've used their cheaper (single struck) bullets for years for plinking and IPSC without any issues. A lot of people are alarmed at the diameters, but 1) the plated bullets are so soft it really doesn't matter much, and 2) it's probably a ploy to scare you into buying their more expensive "double struck" bullets. This, when we all know that the "double struck" are just the ones they sort out after a sizing inspection and sell for more money.

My advise, buy the cheaper ones unless you're chasing the state championship in your area. You're not going to be able to load these really hot anyway. They'll do just fine.

 

[Hardatwork]

rfwobbly
what are the diameters with single struck. Does it cause a problem with crimping or bullet setback. I an new to reloading and I like to be careful.
Thanks

 

[Walkalong]

All of my Berrys bullets in .45 have that I have measured came out at .452 to almost .453 and have shot with no issues through all my 1911's including a couple of match barrels.

I do not know this for a fact, but I believe the double struck bullets use the same die. They just double strike them after plating to help make the outer dimensions more uniform. I am sure the single struck ones were the ones that were sometimes a bit over .452, but they all shoot great anyway. I had some double struck 230 RN and my records indicate .452. The 200 Gr HP that I like so much is sometimes closer to .453 (.4525ish). It feeds great and shoots great. I will continue to buy them.

My advise, buy the cheaper ones unless you're chasing the state championship in your area. You're not going to be able to load these really hot anyway. They'll do just fine.

I agree.

 

[ljnowell]

where does one find the "single struck" berrys bullets? It seems like the website only has the double struck bullets.

 

[Walkalong]

Berrys .45 page. Two DS bullets out of nine.

 

[rfwobbly]

Answers.....

where does one find the "single struck" Berry bullets?

They're not called "single struck" on the web page, that was my term. It's simply the cheaper plated Berry bullet offering. The size of the dead-soft copper plating only varies by .0005" or so. You have to pay more to get the most accurate thing they have, which they call "double struck".

It's the same difference between a pickup truck, and a pickup truck with white wall tires. Follow?

Does it cause a problem with crimping or bullet setback.

No. Absolutely not if your sizing and crimp die setup were worth using to begin with!

I am new to reloading and I like to be careful.

I can both appreciate and applaud that. But look, if the powder load goes from (just for instance) 4.0 to 4.8gr, when using a plated bullet you're not going to be able to use past 4.4 or 4.5gr. So you're going to be shooting an accurate, but slower bullet. You're not going to be pushing any limits with any plated bullets.

Hope this helps!

 

[Walkalong]

You're not going to be pushing any limits with any plated bullets.

Speak for yourself.

Good advise all around though. AC

 

[rfwobbly]

Hardatwork -

Don't be doin' no listenin' to Walkaround, 'cause he's from Al-uh-Bama!

And he probably got those white walls on his pickemup truck.

 

[Hardatwork]

SOOOO cheap it good (RIGHT) When it cones to Berry's

 

[D. Manley]

Berry's Bullets

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I an trying to save some money and was looking in to loading 45 ACP with Berry's Plated bullets I see on there site that there bullets for 45 Cal. are 452" .I thought that a 45 ACP was 451" in size can anyone explain this to me.

Berrys and Rainier (the 2 major players is the US plated bullet market) use a little different sizing scheme. Ranier uses conventional jacketed bullet sizing and Berrys uses .001 larger, more common to lead bullet sizing. Either/both work well in a huge variety of guns. FWIW, you can also obtain Frontier plated (their "Custom Plated Bullets") from Tony at T&T Reloading...not as widely known here but very popular globally.

 

[D. Manley]

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