best autoloader

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Hi fellow shooters:

I am interested in an autoloading shotgun. Purpose is going to be primarily for target shooting and HD.

What do you all think is the best overall autoloader, with reliability as a primary concern?

Please don't suggest a pump action; just not interested in that right now.
 
Reliability? The only one you see in the target winner circles are Berettas - 390, 391, A400 - take your pick. My 3.5" A400 is used for sporting clays - it reliably shoots with my 3/4oz 12 gauge reloads - that's a 28 gauge payload in a goose gun - ZERO issues, nada, nil, zilch, none and the easiest of all gas guns to clean
 
A lot might depend on how you define target shooting...but, for HD, I went with the FN SLP system.

I looked and tried...in a fighting shotgun class...the Remington, Benelli, Beretta and Mossberg before deciding on the FN. Mine have been reliable with a wide range of ammo without a hiccup and I really like the soft recoil combined with the speed of cycling.
 
Beretta 390/391/3901, or if you are on a tighter budget, the Mossberg 930.
 
My 3.5" A400 is used for sporting clays - it reliably shoots with my 3/4oz 12 gauge reloads

When you say reliably I assume you mean every time and in any weather? I may have to look into getting one myself.
 
The Inertia Benellis I have seen are rather ammo sensitive, and you can't go hanging any weighted stuff on the inertia models. Gas guns are okay but overpriced in my opinion. Remington, Beretta, Browning, Mossberg are all plenty reliable when properly maintained.
 
I don't know much about the different systems of operation (I mean I understand them in principle, but not in specific differences in practice). Can someone help describe the advantages and disadvantages of each system?
 
When you say reliably I assume you mean every time and in any weather? I may have to look into getting one myself.

Yep, but then I don't get -40 here in FL, but with the right loads for the temps, I have no doubt about it - if a goose gas gun will let me shoot 28 gauge payloads without failure to feed or eject, I consider that a good gun

I don't know much about the different systems of operation (I mean I understand them in principle, but not in specific differences in practice). Can someone help describe the advantages and disadvantages of each system?

There are three main types - gas, long recoil, and inertia. With a few exceptions, the majority are either gas or inertia. A gas gun utilizes some of the gas generated by firing to operate the action of ejection and reloading. This makes it softer shooting because by doing that, it lengthens the recoil pulse so it seems to be more of a gentle push than a hard shove. For the most part they can handle light to heavy loads without major issues. Downsides - if the ports get clogged, operation can start to be hampered by jamming, failure to feed, etc. Cleaning a gas gun can take a little longer than an inertia gun.
An inertia gun, like a Benelli, basically acts like a blowback pistol utilizing the forces generated to move the bolt back against a very stiff spring. Since all the gas goes out the barrel, cleaning is somewhat easier than a gas gun, but the downside is that the felt recoil is more and the gun may not like to shoot light loads or target loads below 1-1/8oz, 1200 fps. Because there is no gas action up front, the gun is lighter which also transmit more actual recoil.

There are two recoils to be dealt with - actual and felt - felt is also known as perceived and "kick"
Actual recoil is a simple math equation involving the mass of the payload, its velocity and the weight of the gun
Felt recoil is what you seem to feel via fit, the gas action spreading the pulse out, etc.

I'll let RC or someone else discuss long-recoil, ala Franchi and Browning old semis
 
The only Benellis I've ever really seen have problems cycling lights loads are SBEs. The M series Benellis all seem to do pretty well with light loads. Personally my SBE only has problems with light loads if it's pretty dirty. A good cleaning every 100-200 rounds of target loads keeps it running smooth. I don't really know how many heavy loads it takes to gum it up as I never go through more than 25 or so before a hunting trip is over and I clean it up for storage. And it never had problems cycling light loads until I put a good but of heavy loads through it, I put a couple thousand target loads through it without fail before I ever put a heavy load in. If you find a deal on a M series Benelli and have no reason to use 3.5" shells, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. I'll take oneounceloads word on the Berettas. I've never used one, no need for me to own two auto loaders when mine is reliable, but I haven't heard much bad about them.
 
I've had just about every auto loader out there, and the 390 Beretta and its progeny are my pick for the most reliable and flexible semiauto shotgun available.
 
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