Best way to start out a child.

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Hello, I am fairly new to the forum and was wondering about getting my children into shooting. My Son will be first. He will be five years old in March. He is very smart and picks up on things very early. We have plinked a bit with at BB pistol but he has a hard time holding the gun. Would a small BB rifle be more suited to him? I have also let him pull the trigger on a High-Standard .22 pistol. I held the firearm and aimed while he pulled the hammer! He loved it. Thanks for any input!

Shawn
 
The best advice I can give you about introducing kids to shooting, is patience.

Let them progress at their own pace. Let them request going to the range, or maybe a gentle invitation. If they get tired or bored at the range, STOP. Don't finish out a hundred rounds of ammo while the kid sits bored behind the line. Go ahead and leave when they're ready. Progress slowly up the ladder from .22's to bigger stuff.

I've followed this with my own son. And it's kind of fun to watch a 10 y/o embarrass adults on the line with his marksmanship skill with full-bore centerfire goodies. Got to see that again today. Makes a dad proud.
 
+1 for The Cornered Cat. Lots of good info there. I wish I had found it before starting out my son.

.22lr can be fine for a five year old, maybe a Chipmunk, Crickett, or Henry Mini-Bolt. Holding the rifle may be difficult at first. Sandbags on the bench help this.

Keep it FUN. Reactive targets such as spinners, cans, ballons, shotgun clays, etc. Something that gives instant feedback. Paper targets wil get boring real quick. Also, don't take anything for you to shoot. Let it be all about him. Watching you shoot will get old fast. When he is done, whether it is 10 minutes or 2 hours, pack it up and go. "Forcing" him to keep shooting after he has lost interest may turn him off for good.

I found that explaining iron sights was difficult. Then again, I did start my son out at 2 years old. Red Dot sights, Holographic type sights, or a scope will make it easier to explain sight picture. There are lots of people that argue that they need to learn iron first, and I used to be on of them, but with a child, sometimes it's not that simple.

Also, stress safety and the four rules first, last, and always. Kids are smart enough to comprehend. Repetition is the key. I had lots of people tell me that I was unresponsible for teaching my son at such an early age. Maybe, maybe not, but he is now a lot safer than quite a few adults I know. I won't shoot with them, but do not hesitate to shoot with my son every chance I get.

Hope some of this helps.
Good Luck
Oakville Shooter
 
That is great.

I was at the range today and there were 2 familes with 5-8 year olds learning to shoot.

1kid was sighting in his own rifle (10/22) for the very first time. Dad appeared to be having a good time watching the progress, and assisting when asked for help.

The other was a couple 2X (1 adult 1 child) shooting at clays on the 25 yard pistol range. Every so often mom and dad would switch kids

Several of us stopped to enjoy some of the childrens enthusiasm. One guy never even unpacked is truck, just sat and watched kids learning all afternoon. He said he ould shoot anytime, but only so often did you get to witness 3 kids having so much fun.
 
I waited for my kids to come to me..
I have a 12 year old son and a 7 year old daughter.
They know me and my wife carry. We take them to the range for dinner since our range has a place to eat and you can watch shooters.

My son asked me to take him one day and I did and he shot my dads .22 rifle and a couple of my hand guns.

My daughter who wanted nothing to do with shooting was happy watching and thats all untill last weekend when we where shooting BB and Pellet guns and she asked to shoot my pellet gun with the scope. She took one shot and hit the fruit can she aimed at and was so excited she asked me to take her too shoot real guns. So now thats the next step for me.

J
 
Thanks for all the response on this topic. So far, my Son has been very excited at just the mention of shooting a couple of targets after work and school. Just mention the word, and he is off skipping in front of me out to the old dump on our place. We have a couple of cans, and such lying arround down there that move well when hit. Also, we bought a small plinking chicken that he likes the sound of when hit. The only bb gun we have is an old pistol. I believe this is hard for him. CO2 powered. Kind of heavy. We have been thinking about getting him a light, small bb rifle and try that. But everybody is right, as soon as he starts to loose intrest we go to the house. I will check into the scope, and alternative sights. Maybe that would go better for him. Irons just arent pointing very good yet!!!

Thanks
 
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I showed my 5 and 7 year old nephews how to shoot my ruger .22. They absolutely loved it.
Before i took the range bag out, i sat them down and gave them the "safety talk." They were so excited that they were going to shoot, and i told them that they had to know the safety rules first, that they had no problem with that at all. I repeated the safety rules frequently, and was feeling like a broken record by the end of our outing lol. I was impressed and proud of how respectful they were of the rules of safe gun handling.
I had them stand between my legs as i sat in a chair and the 7 year old was able to shoot it by himself. The 5 year old wanted help, so i braced his forearms and he aimed it and pulled the trigger.
They shot 2 liter bottles filled with water, and a bunch of pumpkins, and we had a blast. They are good shots too! They made swiss cheese out of the targets lol.
 
i took my 9 year old out again on saturday... damned if he cant out shoot me... what i have learned, is that you go over the rules a lot... dont force him to shoot anything bigger than he wants to... bring along some beer cans to shoot... i got a spinner on sat and he loved that... hes pretty cool because he likes to see if i can shoot better than him...

my .22 is too long and heavy for him, so im actually getting him a henry youth .22 lever action... costs about $250 and i like the fact that it isnt a single shot, and it isnt a semi auto... plus it has a mounting grove on it for scopes... you can get a cheap BSA .22 scope for like $16 at walmart... works fine
 
oh, and the reason i wont get him a bb or pelet gun is that hes seen too many other kids playing with them like they are toys... and i dont want him to treat one like a toy... getting him a .22 shows him that i trust him, and it makes him act more like its not a toy
 
Definitely something like a Cricket. Single shot, very small and short. Maybe figure out how to put a red dot on it. Kids I've seen in general can't figure out iron sights that well and get all scrunched up.

Remember when we were younger, they had those shooting galleries at the fair with targets that jumped and made noise? Good times.
 
I think that siglite described a decent attitude with which to approach introducing young ones to shooting.

I always just invited them to come along. Once they did, I focused on them rather than my activities, spending most of the time answering questions or just narrating what it was that I was doing. They decided to try things soon enough.

I started at home with each one, making sure that they could physically handle, load and clear whatever they desired to shoot before arriving at the range. I always supervised them, encouraging first, correcting when I had to.

First shots were always using a rifle while seated, a sandbag supporting the forearm. This built confidence and familiarity before progress to sitting and standing positions.

It worked. My three all learned to enjoy shooting and respect, rather than fear, firearms. Yours will too.
 
Fun.
Serious Fun.
Attract and Lead by example.
It is all about them.

Kids as they get bigger are attracted to new things, and of course are curious.
They see adults and other kids with inanimate objects or doing something and of course they want to see that object or do that activity.

Example - Slide at the park.
Little bitty, still "what is that?" they ask pointing at a slide.
Get the kid, start at the bottom and hold them as they are slid by hand.

They may see bigger kids doing the slide all by themselves, still Parenting and Mentoring come into play.
Parent and Mentor the kids, and Communicate with them.
Kids are not dumb, they understand a lot more that many give them credit for.

Firearms, and shooting.

This is where having a kids sized BBGun or .22 single shot rifle is important. Even if you do not have kids.

Neighbor, brother, sister, co-worker anyone might have a kid and this kid can be Parented, Mentored about firearms.

Neat is being around others with these guns and - a couple of camps of thought, either passing down a gun, buying one ,or letting that kid help in picking one out.

Firearms and Shooting is great, just like using slip joint pocket knives, and other lessons.
Safety is not a lock on a knife, a safety on a gun, - instead between the ears.

Just like the playground equipment, that stuff needs lessons in playing, having fun and learning all sorts of things, and being safe.
There is no "safeties" on that playground stuff, and that playground equipment cannot do anything at all by itself until a user does something with it.

So I go against the grain of many folks, and attract, pass forward, and assist with kids as I was raised.

Eddie Eagle is nice program and all, still I personally do not agree with all it shares.
So I adapt a kid's safety program I and mine like , based on how I and we were raised to the kid's, and lowest level of understanding of the kids development stage.

i.e
I grew with a gun behind the kitchen door.
My little broom and mop and doing chores and "I need that gun moved please!"

This before Stop, Don't touch, Get an Adult was ever in a Eddie Eagle program, we did not have Eddie Eagle, Gun Schools , and you can forget Internet with sites.

Wooden dowel, maybe part of a broomstick and we with kids paint it blue, we communicate "blue" is a safety color for lessons.

We don't do the stupid orange muzzle crap either, real guns don't have this, and we for damn sure do not want to instill "safety features" are what keeps them safe.
Not a safety on a gun or lock feature on a knife.
Kids learn knives with slip joints, learn to use a knife correctly and one does not fall prey to depending on a stupid lock.

So that blue rifle/shotgun is used to parent and mentor a kid.
We get a blue water pistol and that too is communicated as being a lesson tool.

These kids earn respect and trust.
"Bring me the handgun/rifle/shotgun/knife, we ask"
Kids will safely bring these to us. Put them back, or carry them around.

Doing lessons, stick a blue lesson tool somewhere and "I need a little help here, I gotta pee really bad, but there is a gun in the bathroom" - kid will say.

On the range, light, simple easy to use gun, close targets that react.
That apple "blew up" and lessons on that little bitty .22 short, instills that itty bitty bullet is dangerous - cute, neat - still dangerous.

Can of tomato juice is another good target to instill in a kid's brain what a itty bitty bullet will do.
Not to scare, instead educate.

Kids tire out, take breaks and have fun.
Let a kid eat a snack, and often times I or an adult will use a kid's gun to shoot to share something.

Another thing, adults do not know everything and are not perfect.
Little deal we do, and is fun, the kids get a kick out of is , while they win points or treats for shooting good...

Itty bitty jelly bean is set umpteen bazillon yards downrange.
"Yeah, we all checked to see what was behind that target, really good too! - kids share.

"Okay, if you miss *sigh* we guess you and the other adults have to take us to Taco Bell ( or wherever these brats have agreed to go eat).

I can't see this itty bitty jelly bean, much less hit it, and these brats do stuff like give me a NAA Mini-Revolver if I "might need more than one shot" or just one , .22 short, using a kid's rifle.


"We are so sorry you missed - again. Maybe you need to practice more, or put more beef jerkey in your back pocket or..."
*giggle-snort*
As they chow down on whatever they are eating ....

"It is okay, just because you can't shoot, you can hang with us Uncle Steve".

Kid and learning to shoot?
I'm still learning myself, and I refuse to grow up. Us kids gotta stick together ya know?
*wink*

True.
Young lady saw another young lady shooting a Pink Cricket so young lady and her parents asked if she would like to shoot it.
Young lady shot it and got this huge grin.

Grandma and Grandpa thanked the parents and had this cute granddaughter looking up with wanting eyes.
"Grandma, Grandpa, I really like the gun you had as a kid like me, it is neat to shoot but that one is sooooo sentimental and all...

At the store checking out Pink Crickets, "gun fit is important don't ya know?" ( one guess where that comes from).

Three .22 rifles were bought.
Seems since the grandparents were not sure to get each other for an Anniversary, the granddaughter made an "executive decision".

Picture a cute little lady making sure grandparents got a .22 rifle that fit them.

"Listen sport" she says to grandpa "I am going to inherit that little gun of yours and we need to per..pre...whatever that word is to keep it nice and in good shape".

*Grin*

"Well you could always blame Uncle Steve Grandpa..."

*smirk*
 
I started with the ever present Marksman Spring Powered BB Pistol, they're for sale at Wal-Mart for like $30. I was supervised as I shot that at cans and stuff. Then I was allowed to be unsupervised with it and it became my own. (I never did anything stupid, so they never took it away).

I then graduated to a .177 Scoped Crossman Pellet rifle. After that was a Crossman pellet/BB combo pistol, that thing was awesome. Then after that was another scoped .177 Pellet Rifle.

After that I moved right up to .243 Winchester as a hunting rifle and a 20gauge shotgun.

Gun Handling and Control can be taught on almost anything, but the size of the child should dictate what he shoots. I'm a big guy and was a big kid, so by 12 shooting the shotgun was no problem at all. I didn't shoot .22 until much later, which is a bit backwards, but we didn't hunt much with .22. Mostly large game (deer, bear) and some rabbit, for which we used the shotguns.

What is the problem he's having holding the pistol? Too heavy? If that's the case, look into some of the mostly plastic pistols. They're comparatively low in price and a bit more cheaply made, obviously, but they're light as a feather. And I have noticed some BB/Pellet guns have really tough triggers, is that the problem?

Either way, I started on a pistol then went to a rifle and had no problem. Supervise, give him encouragement, and maybe reward accuracy with something. We had a coal cellar that we would set a padded trap box in and then we'd set up a sandbag on a table across the room and just plink into that. I'd shoot for hours without getting tired. Though shooting anything other than BBs and Pellets indoors is probably a bad idea, and I'm sure some here think my shooting into the coal cellar was a bad idea - but we were safety conscious.
 
I forget what age I was, but one day Dad came home with an incredible Daisy Red Ryder and a Daisy BB target trap.

He took me out in the back yard, set the target up, and after a good two minutes of steady aiming with the unadjusted iron sights, absolutely nailed the bullseye from 10 yards. He had long forgotten his deer rifles since I had been born, so I was absolutely impressed with both him and this rifle right from the start.

And man, I couldn't put that thing down. For like 3 years. It got to the point where I was nailing empty soda cans from like 50 yards and learned the ability to adjust for for the drop of the BB at even longer distances. I read the instruction manual over and over at night.

After a few more years he finally gave me a Remington 581-S .22 for Christmas, but I was really glad I had the Red Ryder. While I had to wait for him to take me to the range to shoot the .22, I could shoot the Red Ryder all day long every day in our backyard (which was somewhat large). And while it was accurate, it wasn't powerful enough to get me in trouble. (I remember watching a BB bounce right off a crow.)

I remember when I first got it, I had to put a lot of effort into pulling the lever to cock the gun, but over a short time I got really good at it. Honestly if I ever have children that's what I plan to get them - some sort of lever-action BB gun. It taught me all sorts of proper rifle handling (I can shoot off-hand better than most people I know), taught me how to use open sights, was incredibly economical, and I could shoot it all I wanted.

Still have it too.
 
I started mine out on a Daisy Red Rider. He was 7. He has shot a 22 but is gets heavy fast. He can shot the Red Rider for hours and is a "real" gun so the safety rules can be learned with it as well as a 22. Crickets are great also but I went with the bb gun because of it's weight. It doesn't get uncomfortable to him.
 
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