Zach S
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I have too. the spring that holds the takedown up broke in a G19 rental.
better off with tupperware?
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BluesBear
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Doug Kiesler has a really great tank and military vehicle collection.
But then Doug is cool like that.
But then Doug is cool like that.
Carbon_15
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Tam..I thought you had a Glock 29 & 30?
"If you want to name specific reasons why metal is superior for me to respond to, or go point-by-point on specifc aspects of quality metal vs quality polymer, I'm gonna hafta get my wife involved; she's a materials engineer and I'm a wood guy."
The polymers used in guns is indeed strong stuff. Pound for pound perhaps stronger than steel. But a good steel gun is stronger than a polymer version, I think. Just look at what happens to the polymer guns that are involved in a kaboom. It happens in steel guns also, but their frames seem to withstand the extreme pressure without sustaining any damage.
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/hk-kb.html
The polymers used in guns is indeed strong stuff. Pound for pound perhaps stronger than steel. But a good steel gun is stronger than a polymer version, I think. Just look at what happens to the polymer guns that are involved in a kaboom. It happens in steel guns also, but their frames seem to withstand the extreme pressure without sustaining any damage.
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/hk-kb.html
LynnMassGuy
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WHAT KIND OF GUN WAS IT!!!!!!!
Tamara
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harrydog,
I decided to focus on semiauto pistols that I shot better and could personalize to fit my needs and desires.
This doesn't mean that I think Glocks suck, but, looking back from today, I find the pistols that used to fascinate me to be a little dull, common, compromised, and awkward. I have no problem with recommendig someone buy a Glock, but they aren't the guns for me anymore.
I decided to focus on semiauto pistols that I shot better and could personalize to fit my needs and desires.
This doesn't mean that I think Glocks suck, but, looking back from today, I find the pistols that used to fascinate me to be a little dull, common, compromised, and awkward. I have no problem with recommendig someone buy a Glock, but they aren't the guns for me anymore.
powertoast
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< I find the pistols that used to fascinate me to be a little dull, common, compromised, and awkward.
Sounds like you are describing Algore. You Tennesseans sent him to the US Senate, then voted against him in 2000.
cheers!
Sounds like you are describing Algore. You Tennesseans sent him to the US Senate, then voted against him in 2000.
cheers!
Tamara
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I didn't move to TN 'til 11/00.
Cheers!
Cheers!
Carbon_15
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Such as?
"This doesn't mean that I think Glocks suck, but, looking back from today, I find the pistols that used to fascinate me to be a little dull, common, compromised, and awkward. I have no problem with recommendig someone buy a Glock, but they aren't the guns for me anymore."
I know what you mean. I don't think they suck either, but I no longer own any of them. Most gun people seem to go through a "Glock phase" at one time or another!
I know what you mean. I don't think they suck either, but I no longer own any of them. Most gun people seem to go through a "Glock phase" at one time or another!
The same arguments used to defend polymer pistols are pretty much the same used to justify aluminum alloy frames 40 years ago. Steel is still better than both in MOST cases when used in handguns. When they field an M1 Abrams with a polymer cannon or turret you will have a good argument. Trees have been used as cannons and I'm sure an argument can be made for this practice but steel alloy remains superior.
Mr. Mysterious
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That is not really a fair comparrison. If the purpose of the maingun on a tank was simply to shoot it wouldn't be a problem to make the turrent out of a polymer...but it also must be armored to defend against other tanks and anti-tank weapons.
They make planes with polymers...and no one complains (except the people that can't see the stealth planes).
People complained about the M-16 when it entered service...Made by Mattel...and it is going on over 40 years of service. That is darn near as long as any rifle the US militery has used.
There is no denying the fact that Glocks are as durable as anything gets... Yes, they still need steel in the barrel and the slide, but polymer on the frame saves weight, is durable, and absorbs recoil pulse.
People said that anything but metal for the body of a car would be junk...
I'm sure back in the stone age the first guy to make a bronze shield was told "That will never be as good as stretched cowhide".
Tamara
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Every Abrams since the first one has had a composite armored turret. Gonna buy a ceramic pistol anytime soon?
You should pick your analogies with greater care.
Tamara
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Carbon_15,
It starts with a "19" and ends with an "11".
It starts with a "19" and ends with an "11".
Gee, no kidding and here I thought they were made with boiler plate. But what they aren't made of Grasshopper is a polymer plastic. I heard that NASA did a follow-up on the FBI tests and dropped a Glock from low Earth orbit and the chambered round did not discharge....ever
BluesBear
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The only other US Main Battle Rifle, in general issue, that has even come close is the various versions of the 1903 Springfield.
Carbon_15
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Ouch..that hurts.
From Glocks to 1911's. That like you wifecheating on you with your best friend
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