Blaring example of why you should carry....

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How about this?

Let's all come together and AGREE that there are problems at different levels of our society/government that should be addressed to work on preventing school shootings.

But we are not there yet.

Until then, ALLOWING school staff to voluntarily arm themselves to protect their lives and lives of children may IMMEDIATELY save some lives in future school shootings.

In the meantime, we PRESSURE the heck out of law makers to work on our society/government.
 
BUT this is one time that we MUST come together and "DO SOMETHING" to PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.

Our children deserve better than getting meaninglessly murdered at schools.

Let their precious deaths translate to something meaningful.

Let's set aside our political differences for this ONE PURPOSE and PROTECT OUR CHILDREN!
 
Yes, developing a training regimen for armed teachers and allowing those who choose to, to take part is a band-aid solution. Yes, it is easier to say, "just fix the underlying social issues." However, saying and doing are two different things and are both put off to some point in the future. A training regimen for armed teachers and allowing those who choose to, to take part is a band-aid solution. That being said, it is something we can do now, not at some point in the distant future.

Unfortunately, I see this "do something now" mantra turning into the be-all, end-all solution and the money will be spent there and, again, dealing with the root causes will be delayed until the next "big event", and then the circus starts all over again, placing band-aids on things instead of going after the cancer that seems to be getting more wide-spread.
 
But most of these "crap-ton of things" will cost money and likely increase taxes.

That was my point. Until the state and districts figure out a way to pay for this stuff it isn't going to happen.

We are getting a new high school built in a few years. The money to build that school had to come from the tax payers in this district through a ballot initiative. That added about $200 to my property taxes every year. The money isn't coming from congress like Trump thinks it will. About all congress can do is pass some more feel good gun control legislation that doesn't address the problem.

There has to be some serious discussion in schools at the district level about how to deal with this and it needs to be implemented in the coming months. We can't wait for the federal gov't to act. The problem has to be addressed immediately at the local level.
 
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So, this looks like the new Democrat's blueprint for gun control. KNOW about a bad guy, on all levels of government, and law enforcement.
ALLOW him to proceed in criminal activity, unchecked. LET HIM INTO an unlocked school with defenseless children. WAIT outside, till
the killing spree is over. MAKE him a media darling, give him plenty of fame.
THEN blame LAGOs, and the NRA.
 
Blaming all of the parents whose children commit these crimes. There actually ARE parents who raise good, normal, well-behaved and law-abiding kids.
 
So George,

What else do you suggest as short-term solutions that are financially feasible?
This happened because of a failure on the part of three gov't groups, not because of a lack of anything else. Personally, with today's ability to go online, even for elementary kids, the increase in home schooling, charter schools, etc., one should be wondering why we are continuing using this out-moded (and now seemingly deadly) way of educating kids. Schools are transformed more and more into prisons - from they way they physically look to the way the students are housed and handled. If you do not look long-term, you will always be looking short term and spending more and accomplishng less.
 
The crux of the problem is people are no longer held accountable for their actions. Cruz wasn't held accountable,
several times. The press which glorifies him, isn't held accountable, for all the blood on it's hands, with mass shootings.
Security isn't held accountable, for the safety of the students, and parents don't hold the school accountable to have better
school security.
 
And the parents don't seem to be held accountable either......you cannot be a parent and your child's "friend"; if a parent doesn't teach their kids right from wrong, personal responsibility, etc., they wind up living in their parent's basement well into their 30s......
 
I agree with addressing the underlying causes but the fact is, current "system" failed in Florida shooting. And we can't start to spend money on things that haven't happened yet when we are trying to spend money on things that have happened.

And people are demanding we "DO SOMETHING" now.

Allowing school staff to voluntarily conceal carry guns they already own is something we can do NOW with no or little cost while we/law makers work on other short-term/long-term solutions.
The people demanding we do something now are mostly very left of center; who also never made a peep about the illegals coming in here in hordes and committing very violent crimes. The only time we need to do something is when a gun is used by a white kid in a scenario like this. Where's their screaming about every weekend in Chicago, Detroit, Camden, Oakland, Orlando? Not a peep.....
 
The people demanding we do something now are mostly very left of center; who also never made a peep about the illegals coming in here in hordes and committing very violent crimes. The only time we need to do something is when a gun is used by a white kid in a scenario like this. Where's their screaming about every weekend in Chicago, Detroit, Camden, Oakland, Orlando? Not a peep.....



In Chicago alone they AVERAGE 600 murdered a year and about 300 wounded. All in gun free Chicago. Of course because they are blacks killing blacks it doesn't rate much news. It is only white kids or middle class that get the attention. Rahm Emanuel, of Chicago, has in common with the Mayors of Detroit, Camdon, Oakland, D.C. They are all Liberal Democrats.
 
As a teacher, I keep saying this, but I feel like people aren't getting it. Armed teachers will not happen. NO ONE in education wants it. Not administrators. Not teachers. Not students. Not even teachers who are gun owners and NRA members want it. The ONLY group calling for arming teachers is the NRA. Even if Congress and the President repealed the law that created gun free school zones, I would be surprised if more than a handful of school boards and superintendents allowed it.
Funny how "NO" teachers want to carry, when LOTS of them here have volunteered for training.

Once again, I have to point out that this all rests on an inane narrative, namely that only a Navy SEAL can defend from a school shooter.

It's nonsensical on its face.

Schools aren't being attacked by SPETSNAZ teams. They're being attacked by wingnuts with NO training. It's not at all unusual for them to shoot THEMSELVES when confronted.

All it would take in MOST of the cases would be for ONE person to put the killer in immediate personal danger to stop the attack. TWO armed persons would allow one to suppress the shooter while the other maneuvered to shoot the threat in the back of the head.

This doesn't require MANDATORY arming of teachers. Nor does it requires teachers to pass the Q Course. It only requires teachers with concealed carry credentials who WANT to carry to be ALLOWED to.

Instead, we're told that the ONLY solution is to dial 911... and bleed out while the Broward County Sheriff's Department cowers in the parking lot. Oh, plus steal the property from MILLIONS of NON-criminal citizens, and create a police state to do it.

The fundamental basis of this is a HATRED for the concept of armed self-defense. The current discussion is about schools, but underlying it is the anti-gun cult's assertion that NOBODY (except Deputy Scot Peterson) can defend themselves with a gun. The fact that this is CONCLUSIVELY disproved THOUSANDS of times a year never seems to matter.
 
Funny how "NO" teachers want to carry, when LOTS of them here have volunteered for training.

Once again, I have to point out that this all rests on an inane narrative, namely that only a Navy SEAL can defend from a school shooter.

It's nonsensical on its face.

Schools aren't being attacked by SPETSNAZ teams. They're being attacked by wingnuts with NO training. It's not at all unusual for them to shoot THEMSELVES when confronted.

All it would take in MOST of the cases would be for ONE person to put the killer in immediate personal danger to stop the attack. TWO armed persons would allow one to suppress the shooter while the other maneuvered to shoot the threat in the back of the head.

This doesn't require MANDATORY arming of teachers. Nor does it requires teachers to pass the Q Course. It only requires teachers with concealed carry credentials who WANT to carry to be ALLOWED to.

Instead, we're told that the ONLY solution is to dial 911... and bleed out while the Broward County Sheriff's Department cowers in the parking lot. Oh, plus steal the property from MILLIONS of NON-criminal citizens, and create a police state to do it.

The fundamental basis of this is a HATRED for the concept of armed self-defense. The current discussion is about schools, but underlying it is the anti-gun cult's assertion that NOBODY (except Deputy Scot Peterson) can defend themselves with a gun. The fact that this is CONCLUSIVELY disproved THOUSANDS of times a year never seems to matter.
You are correct and many anti 2A politicians know it. An armed teacher preventing a school shooting would be detrimental to their cause and is the reason they are so opposed.
 
Are there examples of SRO`s in a school actually making a difference in a school shooting?
Probably--but, since that does not fit the template, it will not be glorified in the infotainment-er, news cycle.

Specifically, last week or the week before, an SRO in Colorado (I think) intercepted a kid bent on murder. SRO 1, Kid 0
 
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