Book thread: "Jarhead"

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Has anyone read this yet? I just finished it and I'm trying to figure out a way to get my money back. This is one of the most poorly written and edited books I have ever read. Ironically, there is a thank you to the editor at the end of the book. I didn't think there was one as I was reading it. Horrible. Run-on sentences all over the place. The narration was all over the place, going forward to his time out of the Marine Corps then back to his childhood and so on. Swofford has to be the whiniest, sorriest excuse for a marine/soldier/airman/sailor. 200 plus pages of nothing but foul mouthed whining about how he hated the Marine Corps or the government or war or his fellow marines. I realize that soldiers/sailors/marines/arimen will always complain about whatever branch of the service they're in and they will do it with colorful language but this wasn't complaining, it was crying and whining. I definitely couldn't recommend it to anyone.

Anyone that has read it, did you like it?
 
I didn't care for it, either, and for similar reasons. I didn't find the writing style quite as awful as Dannyboy, but it sure wasn't what I'd expect from an author who made multiple pretentious references to reading The Iliad and The Stranger in his war-zone downtime.

Mr. Swofford was obviously frustrated by his time in the Marine Corps, but I think his post-Corps education at various socialist-leaning academic institutions colors a lot of his memories.

Most of Mr. Swofford's whining objections revolve around things that anyone who has spent more than a week in the military will tell you are perfectly normal and expected:

Lots of downtime in the military? Yep, ask anybody who served. Boo-hoo-hoo. Beats being shot at.
Lots of stupid make-work details? See above.
War zones are scary? Duh. Ask a combat vet.
Life-saving equipment is sometimes hard to use? Well, that's why we train.
MOPP gear in the desert is uncomfortable? Well, yeah, but I bet it beats the alternative.
War involves hurting and killing other people? I guess he thought the rifles, bayonets, Claymores and grenades were just boot camp party favors.

A couple of his sea stories are very difficult to believe, but I guess he has to have his macho credentials in order. The stories sound like rehashes of everything anyone in any service has heard before:

"Yeah, we went into the local bar and the underachieving, longhaired locals were drunk and pissed at us for being such manly leatherneck warrior studs. So the five of us did ten shots of tequilla each, then beat the crap out of all thirty of the locals at once. The cops gave us a lift home and thanked us for taking care of the problem for them." :rolleyes:

"Some tanker was talking at the base camp about some poor grunt's wife he'd slept with before shipping out. Well, it turns out that the cuckolded grunt was playing cards at the same table! What a coincidence, with 500,000 troops in theater! Man, you should have seen that brawl!" :rolleyes:

"The first sergeant made us play football in MOPP 4 for an hour in 120 degree heat! Damn TV cameras! Damn first sergeants! But I was tough and stuck it out, even though the rest of the platoon was vomiting into their gas masks!" :rolleyes:

"My buddy and I were very upset and couldn't sleep, so we ran the perimeter fence 612 times without stopping -- eight hours straight running, and didn't sleep all night! We were too tough to feel tired the next day." :rolleyes:

"I survived the war mentally, but some of my buddies weren't so lucky. It was like VietNam syndrome all over again! They're living with their parents now, listening to Lionel Ritchie records and sleeping in their old twin beds. Or they died in drunk driving accidents that I'm sure weren't really accidents. Or they live in the basements of abandoned houses and can't hold jobs. Or they live in hippie communes in San Francisco and spend every day getting high or finding a fix." :rolleyes:

"The Barrett Light Fifty will shoot through nine city blocks, including nursery schools, and Rep. Henry Waxman is a saint for wanting to ban them." :barf:

I kept thinking, "What's next, the thousand yard sniper shot in high wind, or buying the special hollow-point bullet for a dramatic suicide?"

Mr. Swofford does no one but himself any compliments in this book. The Corps is horrible because it expects him to fight, as he volunteered to do. President Bush is horrible because he sent soldiers to fight in the desert (for "Big Oil," Mr. Swofford has simple-mindedly decided). His fellow Marines are horrible because they are crude or weak or aggressive or afraid, or maybe just because they've never read Candide. His parents are horrible because they let him join the Corps. His brother is horrible because he joined the Army and has a cushy job in Germany.

I can't believe this book got high marks from people I normally respect, like Mark Bowden. At least the reviewer in The Wall Street Journal got it right a few weeks ago, when he panned it. I agree with Dannyboy -- don't waste the money or the time on this drivel.

Mike
 
Thanks for the reviews, I've been thinking about picking this one up for the weekend. Guess I'll find something else.
 
I agree. I kept jumping ahead a few pages at a time searching for the 'good part' to start, but it never happened - I gave up - couldn't finish the book after about 2/3 through.

I was expecting something along the lines of "Marine Sniper" by Charles Henderson about Carlos Hathcock, a book I simply couldn't put down, but was totally disappointed. Actually, mad.

What frustrates me is that I read positive reviews posted at one of the 'gun-related' forums (I can't remember which site now; whether falfiles, or battlerfiles, or ar15...) and based on that I bought the book. Wasted my money!
 
I mentioned this a couple months ago after hearing the author interviewed on NPR. Hadn't read it then, but now I'm "eager.":scrutiny:
 
excuse this going a bit off topic but i have to add this..

Uh ummm....

do i smell a whiff of "and a hard rain fell....." :barf: :barf:

for those of you who either have not been unfortunate enough to read THAT one. think, "a self serving load of drivel, and rehashed barracks room BS stories" written to cash in on the 'Nam memior' craze of the late 80's, with very little if ANY relationship to what the author REALLY did while with in the Republic of Vietnam.

Ketwig was another "whiner" and his comments throughout the book resulted in a reader reveiw i saw one time saying.. "..he complains from cover to cover. A few times I wanted to throw the book into the garbage. With the amount of disdain he has for the USA he should have stayed in Thailand." (apearently Ketwig spent some time as a Platoon Sargent for a combo American/Thai platoon in Thailand, after his time in Vietnam, i got disgusted and stoppe reading well before that point in the book)

and to me it sounds as if "Jarhead" is going to become the Gulf War version of "and a hard rain fell".

both are seemingly a collection of whining and complete macho horse manure.

for a bit of perspective, when i became old enough, in his veiw, to deal with such things, my father opened up his collection of military history books to my use, encouraged my interest in the subject, and would buy me any and all military history books i asked for, with one glaring exception, that exception was "and a hard rain fell..." he told me he'd let me read anything BUT that book, the reason being that every one of Ketwig's "i, was there..." stories could have been written by any member of the service during the period between 1965-72 with a good memory and acess to a supply of both beer and returnees (or guys on in-country R&R).

unfortuneately senior year in HS i had a streak of the stupids and snuck the book into my room and atempted to read it. after the first 4 chapters, i asked dad why he hadn't used it for Kindling, or TP yet! :barf: :barf:

edited to add : just went over to Amazon to add my feelings on the Ketwig book to the "customer reveiw" listings
 
Didn't hate it......

I was compelled to read Jarhead because the reviews made it sound intriguing, the author is local, and my son's a Marine. Some of it was funny, but as others here have said, much of it was too whiny. Not to mention that Swofford comes across as a big, fat misogynist crybaby when he writes about women.

A book that I have recommended to Library patrons is Keeping Faith by Frank Schaeffer and John Schaeffer. It's particularly helpful to parents whose children are undergoing the rigors of USMC San Diego or points east. Along with Making the Corps it's a good one for parents.
 
As a Marine, I was insulted by Swofford's take on my Corps. Granted, he and I have had entirely different experiences in the Corps, but he portrayed the Corps as something he and his fellow STA Marines hated, which is something unusual for a Marine. I've found that those Marines who truly hate the Corps and get out the first chance they get simply don't talk about it.

A lot of Swofford's tales about his behavior with the some of his squadmates while in the civilian sector seem to be a whole lot of chest-beating, and the scene where he pointed his rifle at a dissapointing squadmate's head was too forced--as written, it belonged in 'Apocalypse Now', not a non-fictional account of a Marine's experiences in war.

I read through the book hoping for a better chapter, but found myself disgusted when I was done. I see United States Marines as the last samurai, fearsome warriors impressively adept at destroying their enemy and maintaining the highest standards of technical, tactical and personal conduct . To the uninitiated, Jarhead portrays Marines as nothing but a bunch of drunken brawlers incapable of restraining their own bestial impulses.

Leave this one alone, and I second the recommendation for Keeping Faith--reading it after I read Jarhead helped to rinse the foul taste from my mouth.

-Teuf
 
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