CA removes microstamping requirement from Handgun Roster

[LiveLife]

As result of Boland v Bonta and Renna v Bonta preliminary injunctions, CA removed microstamping requirement for the Handgun Roster - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-legal-challenges.913421/page-3#post-12739163

... SB 452 removes the microstamping requirement for new semiautomatic pistols from the definition of an “unsafe handgun”​

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... as of January 1, 2024, Penal Code section 31910 will no longer require a new semiautomatic pistol to satisfy the microstamping requirement before it can be added to the Roster of Certified Handguns. That requirement was ... enjoined by the district court in the preliminary injunction order​

 

[natman]

They removed if from the existing enjoined law with one hand and reinstated it with a new law with the other:

California Strengthens Nation-Leading Gun Safety Laws

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: Governor Newsom signed new gun safety measures into law — strengthening the state’s public carry regulations, requiring microstamping on handgun cartridges to help trace guns…

www.gov.ca.gov

Their contempt for the rule of law knows no bounds.

 

[LiveLife]

reinstated it with a new law

That government website press release is misleading

SB 452 ... requires all semiautomatic pistols sold in California to use microstamping technology ... sold or transferred in the state by 2028​

That's not what SB 452 states. This is from the actual letter from CA AG to the court (And obviously they cannot mislead the court like in the press release ) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-legal-challenges.913421/page-3#post-12739163

Dear Ms. Dwyer:​

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SB 452 removes the microstamping requirement for new semiautomatic pistols from the definition of an “unsafe handgun” in Penal Code section 31910(b)(6)​

SB 452 also directs the California Department of Justice to evaluate the “technological viability” of microstamping by March 1, 2025, and upon an affirmative determination, the Department must determine by July 1, 2027 whether microstamping components or microstamping-enabled firearms are available for purchase in the State. If those preconditions are met, a semiautomatic pistol manufactured after January 1, 2028 must have microstamping capability before being sold by a firearms dealer.​

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So SB 452 removes microstamping requirement from CA law, Penal Code section 31910(b)(6).

And ONLY IF microstamping technology evaluation determines viability of microstamping by July 2027, will newly manufactured pistols after January 2028 be required to have microstamping.

I guess press release was done in confidence with future projection that in 3 years, microstamping technology will somehow go from current non-viable status to fully viable? I wonder how ... Maybe governor Newsom/AG Bonta know something we don't?

So if microstamping technology is not viable by July 2027 (Very likely so), CA law/Penal Code will remain without microstamping requirement.

 

[theotherwaldo]

Has anyone fact-checked Newsom's press release?
According to him:
"California’s gun safety laws save lives. The Golden State is ranked #1 for gun safety and last year experienced a death rate 43% lower than the national average. Over the last decade, gun laws helped save 19,000 Californians. Since the early 1990s, California has cut its gun death rate in half and if other states shared California’s gun death rate, an estimated 140,000 Americans would still be alive today."

Something smells... .

 

[CDW4ME]

Microstamping is unrelated to whether a gun is "safe".

 

[JN01]

Has anyone fact-checked Newsom's press release?
According to him:
Since the early 1990s, California has cut its gun death rate in half

Something smells... .

From 1991 to 2014, the murder rate was cut in half NATIONALLY. The violent crime rate dropped similarly, both to 50 year lows. During the same period, Americans acquired 163 million more guns, and the US went from 17 states allowing concealed carry to all 50 (although 8 of them have a restrictive permit system). Newsome is a liar.

 

[natman]

That government website press release is misleading

SB 452 ... requires all semiautomatic pistols sold in California to use microstamping technology ... sold or transferred in the state by 2028​

That's not what SB 452 states. This is from the actual letter from CA AG to the court (And obviously they cannot mislead the court like in the press release ) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-legal-challenges.913421/page-3#post-12739163

Dear Ms. Dwyer:​

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SB 452 removes the microstamping requirement for new semiautomatic pistols from the definition of an “unsafe handgun” in Penal Code section 31910(b)(6)​

SB 452 also directs the California Department of Justice to evaluate the “technological viability” of microstamping by March 1, 2025, and upon an affirmative determination, the Department must determine by July 1, 2027 whether microstamping components or microstamping-enabled firearms are available for purchase in the State. If those preconditions are met, a semiautomatic pistol manufactured after January 1, 2028 must have microstamping capability before being sold by a firearms dealer.​

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So SB 452 removes microstamping requirement from CA law, Penal Code section 31910(b)(6).

And ONLY IF microstamping technology evaluation determines viability of microstamping by July 2027, will newly manufactured pistols after January 2028 be required to have microstamping.

I guess press release was done in confidence with future projection that in 3 years, microstamping technology will somehow go from current non-viable status to fully viable? I wonder how ... Maybe governor Newsom/AG Bonta know something we don't?

So if microstamping technology is not viable by July 2027 (Very likely so), CA law/Penal Code will remain without microstamping requirement.

Thanks for the further details. I should have known that anything from the state of California concerning guns would be distorted.

It still appears that now that there's an injunction against microstamping, they're writing a new law allowing it.

 

[VoodooMountain]

Has anyone fact-checked Newsom's press release?
According to him:
"California’s gun safety laws save lives. The Golden State is ranked #1 for gun safety and last year experienced a death rate 43% lower than the national average. Over the last decade, gun laws helped save 19,000 Californians. Since the early 1990s, California has cut its gun death rate in half and if other states shared California’s gun death rate, an estimated 140,000 Americans would still be alive today."

Something smells... .

There are multiple different ways to show gun control saves lives.....on paper.

Connecticut claimed their newly enacted laws saved lives around 15 years ago and had "data" to back it up. What it didn't show was that national homicide rates fell FASTER than Connecticut's rates and that there was zero statistical correlation that could be made to back up their claims.

Unfortunately, even facts and data are politicized now so these discussions are difficult to have.

Considering a recent study from Illinois just demonstrated that 80% of firearm homicide deaths are criminals, we are having the wrong conversations.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

From the early1990s to two or three years ago the whole country experienced declines in crime and gun related crime. I wouldn't credit that to California gun laws.

 

[herrwalther]

I knew the microstamping requirement was a pipe dream for gun controllers when I first read about it. Do I think its dropped because California is getting more lenient? No. It took a lawsuit to get this infringement thrown out. California, and others, will always find more stipulations to citizens being armed.