Carry Handle Storage, 101st Style

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While looking through stuff at the library here, I found a cover-photo of an M-4 rifle with some interesting stuff on it. First, the stock was the new style with the multiple ribs and A2 style swivel on the toe. Next thing I noticed was a weird contraption on the bottom of the handguard. It was that cheesy multiple-rail free-floating tube. The trooper has the carry handle mounted on the bottom rail!!! On top of the receiver it looks like he's got an Aimpoint Comp. There's a laser on top of the handguard rail. Looks like a standard front sight with side-sling contraption.

A few things struck me about this... one was WHY NOT? It's not that heavy and you have to store the darn thing somewhere. Also, this sorta solves the overheating problem for the forward handguard. Also, you cold mount the sight on the right side-rail and then shoot the gun Gang Stlye on the side like they always shoot them auto-pistols in the movies. Just a thought.
 
Hey, you signed for the carry handle, you lose it and it's your ***. Loss of government property could be cause for an article 15, loss of rank and pay, etc. Far easier to just bolt it onto the rifle and your NCOIC won't be harping on you regularly for his twice daily sensitive item checks if he sees it bolted to the bottom rail.
 
Also, you cold mount the sight on the right side-rail and then shoot the gun Gang Stlye on the side like they always shoot them auto-pistols in the movies.
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I wouldnt want to try to get a cheek weld on that side of an M4, the ejecting brass would be quite distracting. :uhoh:

Kharn
 
I would think mounting it that way would subject it to getting dinged up a bunch. A few times hitting the ground in the prone position would really fudge up the sight with dirt and mud, possibly preventing it from working when you really need it.

I'd just as well stick it in a pouch on my LBE and keep it protected in case I really needed it. Military doesn't supply one?..get an aftermarket pouch for it.

Good Shooting
RED
 
i saw some pix from Afghanistan of troops with the carry handle afixed to the left side of a RAS
prolly a tad more out of the way for prone shooting
 
The problem with the carrying handle is hanging on to it. When on top of the receiver it has to be shifted back one notch so the M-4 fits in the standard M-16 weapons rack; then repositioned when you draw the weapon.

When we took the weapon anywhere, we'd secure the handle with a nylon zip-tie through the handle and behind the slip ring. Check screw tightness every now and then.

If you trust your high tech sights to never fail and have the rails to spare, I suppose you can put it anywhere that fits (until you secure the weapon in a rack).

Larry
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I would think mounting it that way would subject it to getting dinged up a bunch. A few times hitting the ground in the prone position would really fudge up the sight with dirt and mud, possibly preventing it from working when you really need it.
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Well, no. The rear sight is right at the front of the magazine well. In prone firing, it might make setting the gun on a sandbag or barrier harder, but no moreso than them cheesy vertical foregrips. I'd think the rear sight would be better protected in the the stowed position than it is when properly mounted.

No, I cannot post a picture right now. The one I've got, I can scan tomorrow and try to post but it's not the clearest picture in the world.
 
The idea has been in use by inner city homeboys for decades....

You can learn other gangsta style carbine handling techniques at Skunkabilly Tactical's Advanced Homeboy Carbine coming up the third weekend of March.

Class will be $150 per day (two day class). Bring sunscreen.
 
If true,
When on top of the receiver it has to be shifted back one notch so the M-4 fits in the standard M-16 weapons rack; then repositioned when you draw the weapon.
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This is the sad part. Our troops can't have racks for their weps?
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This is the sad part. Our troops can't have racks for their weps?
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The rifle racks were designed to secure M-16s: 10 each per rack, secured by padlocked locking bars across the front. It's the locking bars that get interfered with by M-4s. So the carrying handles are moved to complete the security in the arms room.

It becomes a moot point in the field or deployed, since then a weapon is always on a soldier or under guard.

(This is per the US Army by the way, I don't know what the other services do since I didn't use an M-4 when I hung out with them.):)
 
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