Causes of hard bolt lift?

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Or in the case causes of hard lever operation.

Are there any other causes than high pressure that would cause a lever action rifle to be very hard to open?

Background, I have put a fair number around 100 rounds through this rifle using trailboss and H4227 with no problems what so ever.

I obtaine a load from a third party, published, but not by a major reloading, powder or bullet manufacturer.

I ran the load through quickload and it looked fine, around 18000psi (as far as I know the action and this cartridge has been proofed to 64000psi, so a huge margin for error????

I wanted to reduce the load in order to achieve a desired velocity, reduce recoil and minimise or prevent leading. So I tested some loads at load and -1 through to - 5.5 (5 of each) all seemed to work fine, all hit an 8" target area at 100 yards. There were no signs of pressure, all primers looked normal and no extraction issues!

I took the same rifle back to the range two days later, with 20 of the most promising load loaded. The first two shoots missed the target and were around a foot wide of the same, extraction and primers were normal. The third shot missed by the same margin, I couldn't open the lever at first, I waited 2-3 minutes and then with a hell of a lot of effort it opened. The case looked normal, the primer looked normal. I fed the empty case back into the rifle it slipped in fine and then extracted fine? I then tried it again, same thing, again, on the forth chambering inj went in fine, but took a lot of effort to extract (I assume this was the same orientation as upon firing).

What happened? When I say effort I mean a serious amount (though no tools were required). I can only assume a pressure spike?

The powder in question is fast, double base and extruded (N110)
The cartridge a 375W.
The projectile 379-250 LEE.
Cases winchester 3rd firing.

It may not be the powder to blame as there is one other factor, I slugged my bore at .376" and have been using the bullets unsized at .379" (I have order a .377" die but the post is letting me down on this item). Whilst .003" over bore is a touch too much this doesn't explain the 125ish rounds success before number 126. Was it a pressure spike due to a reduction in the powder or did the bullet stick for a 1/2 ms before moving on?

I have been reloading cast for a while now, but until recently I had always exclusively taken my reloading data from Lyman or Hodgdon (ADI) as I was exclusively using their powders (I am in no way blaming VV powders). I did however step in to uncharted territory and in doing so may have invited unecessary risk!

Is this a phenomenon likely to repeat itsels, am I trying to push too big a bullet with to little powder?

Have I been stupid?
 
110/296 is one powder that does NOT like to be down loaded. It can be very moody. It has a history of pressure spikes at reduced loads. I would change powders or go back up to specified load range and see if it clears up.
 
I'll take a stab at this. .379 is too big in a .376 bore. If your .379 bullets are leading the leade and throat, and you keep shooting more .379 bullets down the barrel, pressure is going to go up and up, and I think the spike will tend to go higher quicker with faster powder.

If I'm shooting lead bullets and accuracy goes bad, I suspect leading first. Sticking is pressure. You have both. And with lead bullets they are probably interrelated.

The sticking is a pressure warning, so stop. The rifle is telling you things aren't right. Clean and inspect the bore for leading, repeat until the leading is gone. Size your bullets properly, and use a good lube. Start the load development over on the low end.

I would also double check the case length just to be sure they are not too long.

Good luck. 375 Win is a fun gun to shoot.
 
I will measure the brass, clean the rifle again and wait till the postman brings my .377" sizing die!
 
Well I measured all the cases I have fired through the 375W, in terms of length and diameter there was nothing abnormal about the offending case.

Look at these pictures however, something is wrong visually.
 

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I do not know if that powder is position sensitive. But it can be easily checked. Load one and point the gun up then lower and fire. Then do another round but pointing it down. If you come up with a hard bolt on the down direction it's position sensitive and you may need to use a filler to hold the powder near the primer.
 
I've only had a case of difficult extraction once in the years I've been reloading, but it was enough to scare the daylights out of me. This was with a bolt action .223 when I had a batch of cases that turned out to have oversized flash holes. The cases were from store-bought ammo (Federal, as I recall) that I'd reloaded.

Others disagree as to the significance of oversized flash holes (see thread "pierced primer question), but ever since that happened to me I've always urged others with difficult extraction to double check those flash holes if you are using unfamiliar brass.

I realize this may be a remote possibility but difficult extraction is scary stuff - hope it helps.
 
I wanted to reduce the load in order to achieve a desired velocity, reduce recoil and minimise or prevent leading. So I tested some loads at load and -1 through to - 5.5 (5 of each) all seemed to work fine, all hit an 8" target area at 100 yards. There were no signs of pressure, all primers looked normal and no extraction issues!

As I have said before, reduced loads are cute. There was a foreign company claimed it is possible to render a rifle to scrap, not every time but they claimed it was possible with reduced loads. When the article was published here we choose to ignore their findings, because they could not render a rifle to scrap ever time.

I suggest the next time you want to cut down on the noise, recoil etc. raise the rifle skywards to position the powder next to the primer.

F. Guffey
 
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