Coltman73
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357? Sure, but why?
I've got a few .357's and a few 1911's, even some plastic pistols. Kansas just passed it's CCL and it went into effect a week or so ago. I got mine on day 2 (Day 1 was Ford's funeral, offices were closed). Then, I went and picked up a S&W 638 and a couple of good holsters for it (picked up 1, ordered two more). It's a .38 +P, and I've found that's all I really need. Have you ever tried to fire full house mags out of a 14 ounce pistol? Wow, and I thought a .416 Rigby kicked.... I went to the store to buy a .357, but came home with a .38 after an hour of thinking it through.
1) What is this pistol for? Personal and home defense, and that's about it.
2) What is critical that it do? Stop a human from a range of 10 yards. The longest shot in my house (straight line) is about 24 feet. Anything beyond that is fluff.
I read here about 20 yards, 30 yards, etc. It's been my experience that any situation where you are in fear of your life is going to be 20 feet (a car legnth) or less. At 30 yards, a Jury is going to think that I had other options besides using deadly force, such as, oh, I dunno... run?
I've never heard of anyone getting shot at 20 feet with a .38 and not stopping where a .357 would have done the trick. Out of a two inch barrel there isn't going to be much difference anyway, 80% of the mag's powder will go up in a ball of flame, making for great fireworks less than 3 feet from your ears. The .38 was lighter, cheaper, shorter, and more than enough power to save my life or my family's.
3) Did I mention lighter, cheaper, and shorter? I carry this one on my ankle for 8 hours and hardly notice it, and that's only after 3 days. Ordered a set of lasergrips, when they come it I'll zero to 30 feet and never walk out nervous again. I know that I'll be able to protect myself when I have no other options.
4) Practice, practice, practice. I've found with the people I teach shooting to that trigger control (flinching) is the number 1 reason that people miss. Why practice and shoot with mag rounds that are going to make you flinch whenever you touch the trigger?
Just my .02
Hold Hard
Colt guy.
I've got a few .357's and a few 1911's, even some plastic pistols. Kansas just passed it's CCL and it went into effect a week or so ago. I got mine on day 2 (Day 1 was Ford's funeral, offices were closed). Then, I went and picked up a S&W 638 and a couple of good holsters for it (picked up 1, ordered two more). It's a .38 +P, and I've found that's all I really need. Have you ever tried to fire full house mags out of a 14 ounce pistol? Wow, and I thought a .416 Rigby kicked.... I went to the store to buy a .357, but came home with a .38 after an hour of thinking it through.
1) What is this pistol for? Personal and home defense, and that's about it.
2) What is critical that it do? Stop a human from a range of 10 yards. The longest shot in my house (straight line) is about 24 feet. Anything beyond that is fluff.
I read here about 20 yards, 30 yards, etc. It's been my experience that any situation where you are in fear of your life is going to be 20 feet (a car legnth) or less. At 30 yards, a Jury is going to think that I had other options besides using deadly force, such as, oh, I dunno... run?
I've never heard of anyone getting shot at 20 feet with a .38 and not stopping where a .357 would have done the trick. Out of a two inch barrel there isn't going to be much difference anyway, 80% of the mag's powder will go up in a ball of flame, making for great fireworks less than 3 feet from your ears. The .38 was lighter, cheaper, shorter, and more than enough power to save my life or my family's.
3) Did I mention lighter, cheaper, and shorter? I carry this one on my ankle for 8 hours and hardly notice it, and that's only after 3 days. Ordered a set of lasergrips, when they come it I'll zero to 30 feet and never walk out nervous again. I know that I'll be able to protect myself when I have no other options.
4) Practice, practice, practice. I've found with the people I teach shooting to that trigger control (flinching) is the number 1 reason that people miss. Why practice and shoot with mag rounds that are going to make you flinch whenever you touch the trigger?
Just my .02
Hold Hard
Colt guy.
but it does cost a lot(NOTE: Gemini's website is messed up but check this website for contact details.)...
