CMP 1911 Arrived!!!

[Jim Watson]

Unissued since overhaul in May of 1981. Mixed parts are common.
I have not seen a definite location given for the "A" and date. Somebody on the CMP board guessed Albany.

 

[Zerodefect]

Do they blast and repark during the overhaul or something?

 

[Sovblocgunfan]

That’s part of it, but yes...

 

[Jim Watson]

An arsenal refurb includes sandblast and Parkerizing.
You can find guns that have been processed more than once and the markings are faint from repeated blast and finish.
No effort is made to keep parts together, which is why most are "mixmasters" like yours.

Although I did once see a picture of a gun with all visible parts of 1911 configuration except for plastic grips and Parkerizing.
That one is hard to explain. Did it stay all-1911 by sheer chance in random draw of parts? Did they only do the one gun that day?

 

[Von der Goltz]

Very nice 1911; thanks for sharing.

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

Congratulations on your "new" pistol.
It sure looks a lot better than the one I qualified with way back when...

 

[Nature Boy]

Congratulations on your "new" pistol.
It sure looks a lot better than the one I qualified with way back when...

Same. I guess I had formed an impression in my mind as to what these pistols would look like based on the worn out example I had issued to me before the change to the M9. I'm kinda wishing I had gotten in line for one now.

 

[Jim Watson]

Sign up for the next batch, if any.
The program will not likely survive a Democrat successor to Trump, it may not survive a Democrat House.

 

[Citadel99]

I'm curious how many people will be putting in for the next one...as I already know a bunch who plan on it. A lot of people I know either forgot about it, were admittedly too lazy, or didn't think they'd be in very good shape.

 

[If1HitU]

Congratulations!

 

[Homerboy]

I'm curious how many people will be putting in for the next one...as I already know a bunch who plan on it. A lot of people I know either forgot about it, were admittedly too lazy, or didn't think they'd be in very good shape.

I doubt they’ll be another lottery. 19,000 entered this one. Assume 10% screwed up the paperwork (probably less. They gave you 3 months to check it over), and that leaves 17,100 in it. They got 8000 this year, but after some go to auction and others weren’t fit for sale, the CMP said they’d be selling 6,800 this time around. They won’t move on to the next lottery until all 17,100 eligible from the first round are called. At this rate, that’s 3 years from the first list. And given the Democrats taking the house, I wouldn’t hold my breath for another batch available next year.

My number is 2927. I’m expecting it before Valentine’s a day.

 

[paulsj]

Hmmm??? Colt Frame and Rem-Rand slide in unissued condition? How does one explain this beautiful piece? Train wreck of 1911 parts?
Uncle Sam losing his vision in 1942? Explosion at an armory?
If I could get one like this one I'd pay $1100 too!! Go figure!

Those WWII era 1911s were pretty much parts bin guns with different components made at different factories. Nothing wrong with that, but for few hundred more I would pick used M45A1 instead.

 

[Jim Watson]

Those WWII era 1911s were pretty much parts bin guns with different components made at different factories.

Not exactly. In full production, the slide and receiver were meant to be manufactured at the same place and built into a complete gun and everybody accomplished that by the end of the war. Colt made everything. Singer made everything but grips. Remington Rand got parts from Colt and leftover WWI Springfield parts to get started. They got up and running making nearly everything, although they did a lot of internal contracting with parts coming from Remington Arms facilities. Ithaca needed a lot of help, with stuff from about everybody else making pistols. US&S made most of their parts and contracted for some unfinished parts for completion there, for example they bought a rough slide stop forging and machined it themselves.

Barrels were one exception, High Standard and Flannery Bolt made a lot of barrels for new guns and for replacement. There were several magazine contractors. Keyes Fiber made grips for everybody but Colt.
But if you see a mixed slide and receiver it is from a later refurbishment program.

 

[paulsj]

Yes High Standard & Flanery parts were used by Ithaca Arms Company when during part of WWII period they were open 24/7 making 1911s. Frames & Slides were Ithaca.

 

[Homerboy]

Got the call today. Service Grade on the way. Looking forward to getting it. A few redundant guns will be sold to fund this piece of history. Little over 2 months since I got my number.

 

[Riomouse911]

They’re very nice pieces of US military history for sure...I didn’t put in for a number because I felt they were asking a bit too much for me to justify spending at the time .

I may kick myself someday tho.

You got a beaut, hopefully all the other guys who put in on the thread get one in similar condition!

Stay safe!

 

[MutinousDoug]

Well, for perspective, I shot the best score in my Ft Dix 1969 Basic Training company "Familiarization" by putting all 7 shots on paper. Not the whole B5 silhouette mind you, but the paper anyway. At about 7-10 yds. My Dad had "familiarized" me with a Service .45 and the M1 Carbine at the age of about 13. I was not impressed with the pistol I was issued to "qualify" with.
I didn't do nearly as well qualifying with the M-14,or the M-16 either but they brought me home at least, so there's that.

 

[JR24]

I have to say the first examples I've seen are better than I had thought. Still not for me (I'm not historical collector, my bevy of 1911s will do) but I've been impressed from what I've seen.