Confused

[Jd87]

I ran 150 22-250 cases thru my rcbs full length sizer a while ago and put them in a coffee can. Well I'm getting low on ammo now so I put them in my tumbler and got them all shiny and ready to load. Put powder in and put it in the shell holder, put a bullet on top and it just fell thru into the powder . I tried the next one and it was normal. After that I took a bullet and set it on top of the rest of them and it went right thru 50 of the 150. There is no primer in them so they had to go thru the sizer die. It was a few months ago and they were all in the tumbler since then so I don't know what the heck happened. I'm not new to reloading rifle rounds, been doing it a few years. Has anyone ever had anything similar happen to them?

 

[BigBore45]

Did you run them through the sizer again? did they feel like you had to size them or not?

 

[Jd87]

Yes, I ran them thru the sizer again and they were like normal. I just don't see how I got the primers out without resizing them. Guess I shouldn't wait so long between batches.

 

[Reloadron]

I am missing something. You sized and deprimed 150 cases:

I ran 150 22-250 cases thru my rcbs full length sizer a while ago and put them in a coffee can.

Next you charged the cases with powder:

Put powder in and put it in the shell holder, put a bullet on top and it just fell thru into the powder.

Why would you be charging unprimed cases? Unless I am missing something? Yeah, this makes sense:

There is no primer in them so they had to go thru the sizer die.

You weren't going to attempt to prime charged cases were you? While I can't explain the bullets dropping through the necks I don't understand what I just covered unless I am missing something here?

Ron

 

[BigBore45]

Ron i think he just did not mention every little step. If they went back is it likely you forgot that you may have been trying something new with the sizing die or acquired the brass from somewhere un-sized but de-primed? Sounds crazy, but I'm curious on the headstamp? all the same or differ by problem? also maybe load a few that were loose and let them set for the same time and do a bench push test to see if your neck tension fades? very interesting.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Yes, I ran them thru the sizer again and they were like normal. I just don't see how I got the primers out without resizing them. Guess I shouldn't wait so long between batches.

Do you have a Universal Depriming die? Did you remove the primers and tumble the brass without sizing?

 

[gamestalker]

Maybe the decapping pin is adjusted down real low, which may have allowed you to short stroked the press, thus depriming them without resizing. It would require a very short stroke, but I actually had a friend who made this same mistake, with the same confusing circumstances.

If your 100% certain you didn't get the brass confused with some other deprimed stock, I find it quite unlikely to be related with brass springing back, certainly not that much anyway. I would lean toward short stroking as the culprit.

GS

 

[tightgroup tiger]

Maybe you did what I do sometimes. I have a universal depriming die or sometime I use a 30-06 die , if I want one with a fixed firing pin, to de-prime smaller dia cases with the intentions of tumbling to get the primer pockets clean and forget that they aren't resized.

A week or so later I see them on the bench and toss them in with the resized cases. Then when I go to load them and discover I have resize all of them again because of my carelessness. It's infuriating but I know I do this from time to time.

The fact that you had exactly 50 that weren't resized would lead me to believe that that's what happened in my opinion.

 

[Reloadron]

Ron i think he just did not mention every little step. If they went back is it likely you forgot that you may have been trying something new with the sizing die or acquired the brass from somewhere un-sized but de-primed? Sounds crazy, but I'm curious on the headstamp? all the same or differ by problem? also maybe load a few that were loose and let them set for the same time and do a bench push test to see if your neck tension fades? very interesting.

That must be it and I liked what Tightgroup Tiger mentioned as a possible too.

Ron

 

[Jd87]

I just didn't mention every step. Sorry for the confusion but the were primed before I charged them. They are mixed head stamps that did it. I don't have a separate decamping die. Who knows, I probably did what tightgroup or big bore said and tried something new and forgot about it. And like tight group said it was exactly 50 so I'm going to blame it on trying something new and forgetting.

 

[Jd87]

Oh and I just found this site, great forum!

 

[poco loco]

Welcome to THR

it is the best reloading forum on the web imo for the helpfulness of the denizens.

Have fun, be safe, and keep stuffing lead into brass.

and start at new reloader if you can...I'm up to 4-5 I've begun down the path. None regret it yet.

 

[witchhunter]

Were the 50 all the same headstamp? I would separate the headstamps if it was me, especially in a 250, you could see an accuracy improvement if you used only one headstamp. This would show up with a chrono, different case capacities as well as neck tension. I would look at your sizer die adjustment too, it could have come loose on you.