Considering a Benelli, have some questions...

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I think Skunk was comparing his friends shooting skills with a pump to his with an M1. Not really going into whether the 870 is faster tha nthe M1.

I've read on Winchester's site that the SX2 action could possibly be faster than the Benelli's. (I say 'could' as it is Win's site.) I'll go see for myself when I get one.;)

I do agree with the recoil. My 1187 is a heck of a lot easier on the shoulder with heavy slug loads than any of my Benellis.
 
Some people may be faster with an 870 than some people are with an M1 but an 870 is not inherently faster than an M1.
The X2 might be marginally faster than the M1, but we're talking a few hundredths of a second.
The X2 Practical does look like a nice piece, I must admit. In fact, I'd love to try one out.
 
It is amazing the garbage some people spew when they do not like a gun (who the cap fits wear it!!:neener: ) or do not know anything about the gun.

I recently bought a Benelli and had a hard time deciding between it, a Beretta 391 and a Remington 1187. You know why I had a hard time-because I was listening to the crap being spewed by some- the Benelli cannot cycle 1 ounce loads reliably, the Benelli kicks like a mule, the Benelli is overpriced, the Benelli is this, the Benelli is that, yada yada yada!!


I finally asked the gun dealer to allow me to fire all 3 and he relented when he saw that I really was going to buy one!! Guess what - the Benelli far outperformed the others in speed of handling, weight, balance and accuracy; it was a little more expensive than the Remington and a lot cheaper than the Beretta. In terms of recoil the Beretta felt a little softer than the other two.

So I bought a M3 Super90 and since then I have carried it to the range and competed with it-never a problem- even in rain, even with 1 ounce loads, the pump and semi-auto modes are both smooth,flawless and quick, yada yada yada!!

I can't wait for bird season!! So try them out and you will see for yourself..
 
I just got a new Benelli M1S90 with a Surefire weaponlight on it (617FA), no sidesaddle. Tried a handful of Federal Tactical 00 and a handful of Federal Tactical Slugs. Neither would cycle the action. The spent shells were not being fully ejected.

This was a brand new gun, with no lube. Manual specified only lubing parts for corrosion resistance, so I skipped lubing it since I'm in a dry climate. Mistake? What parts should I be lubing for functioning?

Maybe with the Surefire weaponlight there's not enough recoil for the tactical loads?

I'll try some full-power slugs next weekend.
 
"I'll try some full-power slugs next weekend."

Run a few boxes of full load rounds (not necessarily slugs or buck, that might be too much punishment to your shoulder) to loosen up the action and spring a bit.
 
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I just got a new Benelli M1S90 with a Surefire weaponlight on it (617FA),
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That made my day
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To be exact, I bought a new M1S90 and immediately PUT a Surefire weaponlight on it.
 
Run a few boxes of full load rounds (not necessarily slugs or buck, that might be too much punishment to your shoulder) to loosen up the action and spring a bit.
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Unfortunately I won't be able to shoot any buckshot for awhile. The range I regulary use doesn't have any facilities for shooting buck. I can shoot slugs on the rifle range though so that's probably what I'll do.

I can only shoot the buck at or after IDPA or 3Gun matches at a more distant range, and I don't make as many of those as I'd like.

I'd really like to get the tactical loads to work, if only because I have a good quantity of them already.

BTW I found the size of the pattern to be pretty disappointing. My 870 with the Vang Comp barrel will keep to a 10" group out to about 35 yds with the Federal Tactical 00. This Benelli was close to 20" at 25 yds with the same load. In retrospect I guess the pattern is pretty standard. I guess I was hoping for a miracle.
 
Derek, did your infinitely tactical logistically prompt you to put the LM90 on or are you using the classic 6V light?
 
The buck and slugs. Mine says 'low recoil' but is yours the low base 'low recoil tactical' stuff?
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And the Walmart stuff I shoot the most. I also shoot the Winchester stuff as well. Low base, but never missed a beat even with a fully loaded saddle + sling.
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Well, since the original question has been lost, I'll at least offer my aswers to cosmos7's post.

1) None

2) The Benelli will have a bit more felt recoil than your standard pump gun. It is after all recoil that operates the action of the gun. It's not unbearable though. (i enjoy mine greatly even w/ slugs, - I'm 135lbs)

3) Which one? Depends on what you inted it' use for. I'd suggest the M1 in one of it many variants. One stanadrd variant is changed to another simply by a different barrel. Different stock are also available.

I have owned a M1 "Defense" for a 5 or 6 years now and have been very happy with it. It runs as fast as I can pull the trigger and functions flawlessly. balances nicely and will cloverleaf 3 slugs @ 75 yards with iron sights (ghostring). I've contemplated the Montefeltro but passed due to lack of shotgun sports @ my club. New club this moth has a great shotgun program so the Montefeltro or Sport may be on the horizon.

incidentally, Benelli's website is updated recently and now has it's own BB forum.
 
I currently have a Benelli M4. Great gun. It had eaten everything I've fed it EXCEPT Hornady's 8-pellet reduced recoil buckshot. Federal 9-pellet, Remington 8-pellet, and Estate 9-pellet reduced recoil buckshot all cycled flawlessly. Now that the gun has been broken in, I'm going back to the range to try the Hornady again. It's worth noting that the Hornady says "For Pump Shotguns Only" on the side of the box. I do not have a sidesaddle on it. I did test the gun with a Streamlight M3 and optics, Bushnell Holosight, on it.

I've fired Remington 1100's, Mossberg 500 and 590's, Remington 870's, Benelli M1's and Benelli M4's. I'd rate the recoil as follows from hardest to softest: Remington and Mossberg pump guns, Benelli M1, Benelli M4, and Remington 1100. However, I can get quicker follow-up shots with the M4 than I could the 1100. I'd be back on target with the 1100 and I'd have to wait for the action to complete its cycle. With the M4 the gun has already completed its cycle by the time I'm on target.
 
I still have the Surefire 6v light on it. The LM90 module has not arrived yet.

Mine says 'low recoil' but is yours the low base 'low recoil tactical' stuff?
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High Base, "Tactical"

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You know, a lot of this is simply individual taste. I owned two Benelli SGs and switched back to 870s due to the MOA. IIRC, the M1S90 kicked harder than my 1100, about the same as a pump. Stock fit probably has as much to do with percieved recoil as anything.

Two good friends are stout Benelli fans. It's the Indian, not the arrow. :)
 
If your gun doesn't start functioning properly after a few boxes of break-in ammo, contact Wolff Gunsprings for their special spring that is supposed to fix the ammo problem.

FWIW my Benelli M1S90 w/ Surefire 617F has never missed a beat with Federal tactical ammo or regular 2.75" birdshot. It does not have the Wolff spring either.

Justin
 
Derek, have you even shot it w/out the light yet? Just to break it in?

Is it new, pre-owned from another vintage?
 
I have not shot it without the light. It is a brand new gun (okay, 10 rounds fired now...)

I ordered the Wolff reduced-power spring. If it doesn't "break in" with the slugs this weekend I'll try the spring.

FWIW I think the 617FA is a bit bulker than the 617F was.
 
Had a Benelli auto and hated it----have a Benelli NOVA and love it-----go figure.

Had an 11-87(pre-light contour)it was just flat out too heavy and cumbersome------my auto now is a Beretta 391----love it-----again----go figure.

To each his own---go try each and see what suits you best.
 
I know that you are primarily interested in a semi, but you might consider the Benelli Nova Pump.I myself grew up on a Remington 1100 and prefer semi-auto shotguns,but I currently own a Nova.It is the Special Purpose (Tactical) in 12ga with the ghost ring sights.One of the best shotguns that I have ever seen.The cost was just under $300.Excellent gun for such a low price. The recoil is quite managable.I highly recommend the Nova.Scott
 
RussB, ok I stand corrected benelli isn't the fastest. By the way Benelli CAN be fired with one hand I have done it with mine. Also I have modified my bolt so it will be more reliable with light loads.
 
I've owned and competed (combat style matches) with a Benelli Super 90 for over 10 years. Great gun. The traditionalist side of me likes my 870, too. I could be very happy with either one, and I'm especially happy owning both.

If I were sent into the woods to defend myself tomorrow, guess I'd grab the Super 90, though. I've replaced the pistol stock with the standard stock, so it's just one incredibly handy, reliable, and light piece of artillery. Recoil is not an issue for me. I have long arms, so I have to add an extender stock pad anyway.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I hadn't cleaned the bolt in 13 years and was getting a light primer strike occasionally lately. Took her apart last weekend and cleaned her up - looks as though that solved the problem.
 
I've owned and competed (combat style matches) with a Benelli Super 90 for over 10 years. Great gun. The traditionalist side of me likes my 870, too. I could be very happy with either one, and I'm especially happy owning both.

If I were sent into the woods to defend myself tomorrow, guess I'd grab the Super 90, though. I've replaced the pistol stock with the standard stock, so it's just one incredibly handy, reliable, and light piece of artillery. Recoil is not an issue for me. I have long arms, so I have to add an extender stock pad anyway.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I hadn't cleaned the bolt in 13 years and was getting a light primer strike occasionally lately. Took her apart last weekend and cleaned her up - looks as though that solved the problem.
 
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