Float Pilot
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Yesterday I had four very dirty Swede rifles. I have Sweets, Hoppes, and a bunch of military bore solvent, (the old kind that they thought I destroyed) So I bought something called Copperzilla. It is new in our area. http://gunzilla.us/copperzilla.htm
It is made by the same folks who make Gunzilla. But this stuff can't be as earth-muffin friendly since it really works...
I had my CG-63, m/96, m/38 and m/94-14 Swede that had all just been cleaned. The m/94-14 carbine never seems to get all the way clean and the m/38 rifle is about half as bad. The m/96 rifle and the CG-63 target rifle have super bores in them and after a long cleaning session the patches were coming out very clean....
So I read the instructions and placed a few drops of Copperzilla on a patch and wetted down the bores of all the rifles. The stuff is very watery and it is easy to get some on your clothes or on the floor. Or even on the wood.
IF YOU DO, GET IT OFF QUICK. My old issue Gortex jacket does not look so great today after that stuff ate around on it.
Anyway, after waiting for 30 minutes I ran a couple of dry patches through and all sorts of blue copper came out. I mean lots.....
The two rifles with problem bores also had a bunch of gray and brown junk come out with the copper.
The instructions said to give it another try for a longer period if you suspect more copper in the bore.
SO I ran a couple more patches through and let it sit for two hours.
Once again all sorts of junk came out of what had appeared to be a very clean bore. Most copper this time.
This was all the copper that other Copper solvents had been missing....
Copperzilla
I give it a big thumbs up.
I had the carbon pretty much completely removed by using another product called G-96 solvent gel. I have been using the G-96 synthetic lube which is good to 60 below zero. So I figured why not try some of the gel solvent.
The stuff looks like naval jelly. And it does not smell so great either. All the above rifles had been cleaned with the new hi-grade Hoppes. They seemed clean. Then I applied some of the gel to the bores and let it sit for 5 minutes while I put away some tools. This stuff is very aggressive and brought out so much carbon that it looked like I was cleaning a black powder rifle.
HOWEVER::: The gel falls off the patch in gloobs and ends up getting into places like the magazine well. If it sits there all night it discolors the metal.
Plus it will eat the finish right off the wood it you are not careful. I Got some on the floor of my shop and I think it ate a layer of the flooring.
G-96 Gel,
I give it a very cautious thumbs up. It is ok for heavy carbon fouling but does not seem to remove copper. Plus it is not all that easy to use. Then there is the problem of it eating things you would not want eaten....
The rifle barrel really needs to be removed from the firearm when using this stuff.
It is made by the same folks who make Gunzilla. But this stuff can't be as earth-muffin friendly since it really works...
I had my CG-63, m/96, m/38 and m/94-14 Swede that had all just been cleaned. The m/94-14 carbine never seems to get all the way clean and the m/38 rifle is about half as bad. The m/96 rifle and the CG-63 target rifle have super bores in them and after a long cleaning session the patches were coming out very clean....
So I read the instructions and placed a few drops of Copperzilla on a patch and wetted down the bores of all the rifles. The stuff is very watery and it is easy to get some on your clothes or on the floor. Or even on the wood.
IF YOU DO, GET IT OFF QUICK. My old issue Gortex jacket does not look so great today after that stuff ate around on it.
Anyway, after waiting for 30 minutes I ran a couple of dry patches through and all sorts of blue copper came out. I mean lots.....
The two rifles with problem bores also had a bunch of gray and brown junk come out with the copper.
The instructions said to give it another try for a longer period if you suspect more copper in the bore.
SO I ran a couple more patches through and let it sit for two hours.
Once again all sorts of junk came out of what had appeared to be a very clean bore. Most copper this time.
This was all the copper that other Copper solvents had been missing....
Copperzilla
I give it a big thumbs up.
I had the carbon pretty much completely removed by using another product called G-96 solvent gel. I have been using the G-96 synthetic lube which is good to 60 below zero. So I figured why not try some of the gel solvent.
The stuff looks like naval jelly. And it does not smell so great either. All the above rifles had been cleaned with the new hi-grade Hoppes. They seemed clean. Then I applied some of the gel to the bores and let it sit for 5 minutes while I put away some tools. This stuff is very aggressive and brought out so much carbon that it looked like I was cleaning a black powder rifle.
HOWEVER::: The gel falls off the patch in gloobs and ends up getting into places like the magazine well. If it sits there all night it discolors the metal.
Plus it will eat the finish right off the wood it you are not careful. I Got some on the floor of my shop and I think it ate a layer of the flooring.
G-96 Gel,
I give it a very cautious thumbs up. It is ok for heavy carbon fouling but does not seem to remove copper. Plus it is not all that easy to use. Then there is the problem of it eating things you would not want eaten....
The rifle barrel really needs to be removed from the firearm when using this stuff.
2) swede's.
