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Are we going to leave it up to the american people to donate money to fix roads, ect? Please. Your average american won't even donate a few pennies to the salvation army or somesuch during holidays. Income tax may be seen as an evil, but it is a necessary one.....
THank YOU! why cant more people realize this. the guy with 10 million needs his workers to get to work or no?
Where in the world have you been hiding? How many millions were donated after 9/11? How many millions were donated after the tsunamis? How many people donate every sunday at church for local programs? Americans are more than willing to donate, you just have to tell them why it is important. Maybe you haven't been donating but there are plenty who have been.
As for private roads, that is bunk. I used to take the toll-road all the time in Houston and didn't mind paying for it one bit. That is a privately funded road and there are cars on it everyday. Go read this article posted recently about how a group of businesses tried to keep roads privatized:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=123899
whatever. i am totally poor and taxes are expensive to me..
but if i didnt pay them, we wouldnt have things like roads, police, military, firefighters. not to mention the endless jobs created.
If you are poor, you don't really pay taxes. Top 20% pays 80% of the taxes and according to Rush's analysis of the IRS numbers, the top 50% pay 96.03% of the burden. So unless you are making in the top 50%, don't fool yourself and think that you are building bridges, roads, or employing the cops. The same cops who are sponsored by thousands of citizens who donate for a car sticker that says "Cop Supporter 2004".
Besides, the money you pay in is squat compared to what the "greedy rich" are paying. Does it hurt to pay it? Of course it hurts! It pains me everytime I pay, but you don't think that someone dropping a check for $15 million pales in comparison to what you drop? You don't think that *they* feel $15 million is expensive to them?
"Oh but they can afford it!" comes the predicatable reply.
Yeah, sure they can but what do the rich get for their money? Other than national defense, the rich don't get squat for the money they put it because they are still paying more property taxes, gas tax, and sales tax than you are. You, as a self-described poor person, reap all the benefits of their sucess. Poor people receive the handouts, drive on the roads they paid .0001% of, and enjoy the defense they paid .000000001% of. In addition, if you are poor you don't create jobs, the "greedy rich" do. Remember, that many of those "greedy" rich were once poor and they elevated themselves through hard work and dedication. You want to trivialize that rather than emulate it.
Besides, what is "greedy rich" anyhow? Is it someone who owns a metal shop employing 15 people making $200,000 profit for himself? Is it a multi-billionaire like Bill Gates employing thosands and creating revenue the size of small countries? Is it a guy making $50,000 a year with a small home business on the side and a regular day job? Maybe it is as simple as someone who is making more than you do?
greedy rich people who think they desrve every dime they made forget that they would not hav emade it without the thousands of people under them ,
Plain and simple, those workers under him don't deserve the money he makes. Who took the risk to start that company? Who puts in the work to make sure that it stays afloat for those 1000 workers? Who helps pay for their insurance? Why are those 1000 workers only content to be workers and not running their own company? Maybe it is because they aren't qualified to do anything but be a "poor worker"? Don't fall for the hard working poor man illusion that everyone wants us to believe in, that is a socialist myth. Those workers willingly work for the pay they receive and if they want more then they are welcome to go and get it. However, it requires that they put in extra hours, learn new skills, attend college, or even switch jobs! I haven't seen any company owners balking at the employees taking advantage of their tution assistance programs in fear that they may lose their "greedy" money.
who think that even though they need 1000 skilled workers, they shouldnt have to help pay for the schools, and even though it takes
BILLIONS to defend this nation , and that a rich person is having more stuff protected, doenst mean they should pay more taxes.
Yes, all that extra stuff that the rich paid taxes on. All that extra stuff that a worker had to build and has a job because the rich bought it. All those property taxes the business pays that fund the schools. All the gas tax that company pays while its fleet of vehicles deliver goods and employee people. All the fees the business pays that keeps the city government running. All the money that businesses donate to universities, schools, and libraries. If you don't think a normal business pays its fair share, you haven't tried to run one.
"The big companies don't pay income taxes though, they weasel out of it." comes the cry!
You are right, they received tax credit by matching my 401k contribution, providing me insurance, contributing to stock purchase plans so the workers can own part of the company, donating products to schools, providing training to workers, providing scholarships, matching employee donations to charitable organizations, investing in capital equipment, and the list goes on and on and on.
Think about it= you have ten million dollars, i have 10 dollars.
who is the invader going to attack first??
Neither of you, since it doesn't matter. Nobody invades for dollars, they invade for natural resources, slaves, and property. Your $10 doesn't exist and neither does Bill Gates' billions. They are all fictional and only hold water because people believe that they exist. You can't steal Bill Gate's stock and then sell it because, guess what, nobody will buy it. You can't steal $1 million and use it because the currency will be worthless without the US backing it.
taxes are a pain, but without them, the country would grind to a halt.
No argument there, I just think that you are looking at the issue in a very close-minded way.