Coyote Problems Please Help

[Juggalo Reign]

I am new to coyote hunting and have done as much research on it as possible. My father in law and I have picked it up as a pass time during the stretch between deer season here in good 'ol WV. There is a rapidly growing population here and they have become a real nuisance. There are at least 3 which roam his property and the neighbors on which we both hunt. We have tried literally everything we can think of to bring these dogs in but nothing has worked. We have tried electronic calls, decoys, combination of both, rotten ground beef, rotten deer (road kill), and just sitting with absolutely nothing. We are undetectable. Deer have walked within 10yds of us without a clue. They are around and active but we cant seem to catch them. If we hunt his property (wooded) we hear them on the neighbors field. Stalk the field and we here them in the woods. How can we draw them too us? :banghead:

 

[alsaqr]

Coyotes are territorial. They can't stand dog like animals in their area. A college friend has two mutts trained to attract and bring in coyotes. The dogs go into a field and hang around until chased by a coyote. The dogs bring the coyote right in.

 

[sugarmaker]

1.) they generally travel in a circuit, reasonably predictable, 3-7 days per loop, season dependant. it there's food (apples, blueberries, rodents, deer, whatever) they'll hang around. Territory can be quite large.

2.) If they aren't around you have to move - significantly- at least a half mile. use a locator call to get a yelp. if no yelp, move. If you get a yelp, set up a predator call. depending on what kind of country you are in and time of day will determine your setup.

3.) Bait setups can work well but coyotes don't do rotten stuff like bear - i found bait was good in winter.

 

[Grumulkin]

At least around here, coyotes are hardly ever seen during the day. You might have to stay up REAL late over bait. Around here, almost always if I leave anything edible in the yard over night, it's gone by morning and I know via a game camera that at least sometimes coyotes are to blame.

 

[Juggalo Reign]

We generally hunt them around 7pm-10pm. Also we are hunting on 2 properties about a 1/4mile apart. each are about 20-30 acres or so. We have had no luck catching them on the trail cams either except for one picture which was a very lucky as the yote happened to walk by.

 

[1911Tuner]

Get a Great Pyrenees. They hate Coyotes.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Nightvision. They are much more confident (even complacent?) in the dark. They used to come right up on my porch at night. Used to.

 

[PigButtons]

Put in a paved road and then sit at one end and wait for them to come out and crap in the middle of it. At least the coyotes in AL always seem to do their business in the middle of the road at night. LOL.

 

[BemidjiDweller]

If you are looking to eradicate them, use live bait. It's scary effective.

 

[gyvel]

Nightvision. They are much more confident (even complacent?) in the dark. They used to come right up on my porch at night. Used to.

Good advice. Have the same problem in northern AZ

 

[hardluk1]

Just sit out and listen. No yotes singing at night!! If you can't here them and don't over call. Electronics work but if over worked they my just as well shy away. They are smart and do learn from others. You may only have them around you depending on small game they eat for a day and night or two nights and then there gone again. The coyotes i have killed have all been more by chance than anything. Atleast you have enought acerage to see and shot across.

 

[Superdave70_02]

A coyote has an amazing nose. You could be sitting in a tub full of scent killer and he will know your there. You are never "undetectable" to a coyote.

I agree with live bait. A chicken in a small live trap will drive the predators crazy so don't be surprised to see bobcats come in too.

 

[Bobson]

Is live bait legal? I thought its against the law to use live bait pretty much everywhere.

 

[Certaindeaf]

A Roadrunner is the best bait. You can get it from Acme.com. beepbeep!

 

[Walking Dead]

Get a Great Pyrenees. They hate Coyotes.

That would take out the fun in hunting them. My Pyr slobbers to no end on full moon nights when the coyotes are yapping. But if you just want the coyotes gone a Pyr is more effective than any guy with a gun.

 

[Teachu2]

Coyotes are territorial, but if the food supply is consistent they will stick around forever. I used to work on the Elk Hills National Petroleum Reserve, where they were not hunted. One of the old security guards fed the rabbits, squirrels and chipmunks at the most remote guard shack, and a family of coyotes would show up at dusk every night looking for slow, fat rodents... Had a young male chase a squirrel all the way into the 8' square booth one evening.

 

[Flintknapper]

No offense, but it sounds like you've already "over-hunted" the area.

As already mentioned....coyotes run a "circuit", MORE presence by you in the area in hopes of running into them...only alerts them. And I can tell you from experience (over 40 years predator hunting) you are NEVER "undetectable" to a coyote.

Even if you are not seen, heard or winded while actually hunting them, they will come across your scent after you have left. If they have been pressured before and are experienced....it will be tough to get them.

"LESS is more...when coyote hunting". Stay out of the immediate area you plan to hunt. Give them time to "cool off" and listen for their presence. If you hear Yodel Dogs on neighboring property that is a good sign....but NEVER go scouting for them or over hunt a small area.

Pick a night (dark and still... or at least with a dependable wind direction) and set up. I don't like to use electronic calls on skittish coyotes, you don't have the control you need. Just use a mouth call and squeaker.

Watch for dogs circling downwind and if they turn up sideways, you'd better be ready to shoot, they're getting ready to leave.

Good luck Sir!

Flint.

 

[CoRoMo]

This is no solution for the OP, but I grew up around a family who used a pair of Greyhound dogs to hunt coyotes. I don't believe they ever had to shoot a single coyote; those hounds would sniff them out, flush 'em and... well... coyotes don't have a chance at outrunning a Greyhound.

 

[Skyshot]

hunt them from a tree stand, along some edge, I.E. fence line, thicket, or ridgeline. Make sure you have the wind in your favor. Take a couple of sardine or kipper cans and crack them open enough to let the scent permiate the air. Don't put the fish on the ground. Keep them in the can. DO NOT try to call them, just wait them out. If no sucess, move to another location and take the cans with you. In a 30 acre track you will be patternd quickly. Just hunt a couple of days or nights in succession and then back out for a couple of weeks and try again. Don't keep hunting the same spot, move around.

 

[tri70]

If you have farm equipment that is ran daily like a tractor, you could jump on it and drive around till you see one. Most coyotes do not run from tractors or just move out of the way within 100 yds, allowing for a shot. If you can still hear them at night, they have not left the area and are not bothered by your scent too bad. I would get out and call behind my sisters house and not see anything for 30 minutes, even if I saw them a few fields over. I would move out to a different area and then come back an hour later to find one stirring around where I had been calling from before. I will drive around the back roads looking in the farm fields to try and pattern when I see them moving durning the day. I know they move a lot at night but squirrels, rabbits and mice, the easier to catch prey moves during the day. So if you hear them at night stirring and howling, maybe the next day or two you will have a good chance to get them during daylight hours.

 

[MachIVshooter]

You are never "undetectable" to a coyote.

This is 100% true. The difference in getting them is whether or not they care about your presence. As I said, they're less bothered in the dark. I've chased them out of the yard only to watch them stop and look back after running 50 or 100 feet, whereas during daytime, they high-tail it, maybe stopping on the crest of a distant hill to see if you're giving chase.

Try sitting in a truck. If they're in an area where there is some population, they're most likely very comfortable with human implements and expecting man-smell when in proximity of said implement. They have good eyesight, but they're still critters, and not smart enough to look for you in the dark cab of a truck, versus your silhouette on the hillside.

 

[shiftyer1]

I'm not sure about how to do it in a wide open area, but I know how I do it here. Put a chicken coop on the edge of your hunting area, forget to shut the door, go to bed and sleep, around 2am or when your sleeping the best you will be awakened with a racket outside. Run out with your rifle to investigate and hope you hit him as he runs away. Almost always produced a coyote. And several dead chickens!!!!

Now I have a dog and this is less of a problem. Wish he'd chase bobcats off too.

Coyotes are smart and have good smell and sight. They also cover quite a bit of territory, I have tons out here but rarely see them. At nite I can hear them often especially when a train goes by some 10 miles away. Some nite they are within 300 yards and others they are very far out. Once you find them, they are curious once interested in supper. If it's a windy day....tie a squirrel tail on a string low to the ground where it will twitch in the wind a little. They come in to your call and see that and they get careless. Never tried a group of feathers like a chicken wing, but it might work also.

Can't tell you how far i've called them in from because i'm in about a 2 1/2 acre clearing surrounded by dense brush and trees. I only call them when they start coming around to much, I normally get 3 or 4 in a week or so. After that they stop coming for a while, so i assume trying various spots and not getting stuck in one good spot would be to your advantage. So you don't burn them out.

 

[spclpatrolgroup]

Pup calls right now are very effective. Also if you have stopped seeing them recently it could mean that they have been in a den, right about now they will be giving birth to litters of pups, and its the only time of the season where they will stay put in one location for very long.

 

[Archangel14]

I live in the California desert, where we have mucho coyotes. They are ridiculously smart. You can draw them in at night with a dog, preferably a small to medium size dog that does not have mean disposition. They will attempt to lure your dog to them by mimicking a dog bark, and in doing so will give themselves away.

 

[CountryUgly]

Put in a paved road and then sit at one end and wait for them to come out and crap in the middle of it. At least the coyotes in AL always seem to do their business in the middle of the road at night. LOL.

+1 on that ^^^ Ain't nothing like sliding the back tire of my bike in yote poo on a late night ride in N. BAMA. Those mutts seem to get bigger every year and the piles with them. I think this thread has gone south.

If your wife/girlfriend has one of those little yipper dogs and you don't care for it much take it with you yote hunting. Our neighborhood has had a couple come up missing as of late and I think the coyotes are fond of them.