CZ 75B: Range Report.

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VaughnT

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Just back from some testing on my new-to-me 75B. My club's short pistol range is only 50', but that's plenty far for my eyes and rather realistic in terms of predictable combat distance.

My target was a super-cool display backing I snagged from a Belk's trash dumpster after the holiday spree. It consisted of a large sheet of paper-backed foam with eight 6" red spots on a white background. It was a dream to shoot for an hour or more without having to change my targets!!

Oriented with four dots in a vertical line, I used the uppermost spot to try some predictable 115g Winchester USA harball. Fifty rounds all went into the red, with the exception of a few fliers that I pulled low and to the left. Still, they were very close to the red and were my fault. The main group was very tight, for me, and is what I come to expect any time I'm shooting this weight.

Second up was some 124g Win USA FMJ that I was curious to see. I noted that recoil was slightly harsher, but not uncomfortable and the accuracy was dead on the money. Like the 115g fodder, the 124g rounds proved wholly reliable and I can see this weight being used on-duty.

The third round for the testing was the dubious 147g Gold Dot Hollowpoint +P. I love the Gold Dots for their overall performance, but I've never had any luck with them in my BHP. I was hesitant to burn off the more expensive rounds, but I was curious and didn't think they would perform well enough for duty use anyhow.

I was wrong. Accuracy was on par with the 115g and 124g rounds, with everything staying in or dang near the red circle. Recoil was harsher than anything tried previously, but it wasn't unmanageable. Because of the stiffer recoil, I might loose a few thousandths in my second-shot time; I just don't see that being a realistic problem in a defensive situation.

The only downside, and it's a biggie, is that I had three failures to feed with this round. I should have paid closer attention to what I was doing at the time, but three nosedives in fifty rounds can't be good. Considering that this was after shooting 100 rounds and I was a bit tired, I could have limp-wristed the pistol. I don't see this causing the rounds to nosedive in the magazine, however.

Finally, I burned through fifty rounds of 125g UltraMax LRN. This was an interesting round in that it was very light on recoil compared even to the 115g hardball. The brass didn't fly far and follow-up shots were fast and easy. If you run across it at a good price, give it a try. Might be a bit dirty, but it's as accurate as anything else I tried today.

Overall, I burned up 300 rounds of ammunition today and only had three failures that I can attribute to the magazines or ammo choice. The weapon wasn't cleaned or lubed during the test, and it really doesn't look that dirty even now. I think storing it in a silicone-impregnated sock really helps keep the gunk from sticking when you do heat it up.

Great gun at a great price. Easy on the wrist and accurate enough for my shooting. Combine all that with a cheap ammo and I see a lot of shooting in my future. Now all I have to do is choose a round for defensive carry. I'm thinking the 124g Gold Dot +P is going to take the cake, but I'm open to thoughts on the matter.

PS: The Berretta 92/96 magazine slam pads really worked well. They look like CZ's OEM equipment and made inserting the mags a dream. Highly recommend them to any CZ owners out there.
 
Excellent! FTF were probably ammo, but could be breakin. CZs are the best value out there, IMHO, but I am kinda biased. If you are interested in carry, HBE leather makes excellent custom holsters. Hakan Pek in Norway makes fantastic custom wood grips. Links to both can be found at czforum.com ,a great place to find out all things CZ. Have fun with your new CZ!
 
Always like to read range reports about CZ's. Congrats on the new pistol. Trigger should become quite nice after many dry fires or just shooting over time. You might want to polish the feed ramp as a possible prevention of FTF's. Also think about upgrading to a 16 pound Wolff recoil spring.
 
The more I read about CZ pistols, the more I want one. I'm gonna have to sell my Kimber Pro Carry and use the $$ (plus a little more) to pick up a RAMI and a 75B...in 40 cal., of course. ;)
 
I had a number of FTFs early on in my CZ's life. After I put a fair number of rounds through it, I don't think I had any more. IIRC, they all happened with WWB 115 grain ammo...
 
I had several feed problems with my .40 RAMI, all with WWB Value Packs. Polishing the feed ramp and several hundred rounds seem to have fixed the problem. No problems with S&B or Winchester Silver Tips.
 
Glad you all enjoyed the review. I have to say that I'm very pleased with this pistol and think that it will do well for duty use. I guess I should have mentioned that this weapon was bought used and that the previous owner had switched out the recoil spring and firing pin spring for better quality, heavier Wolff springs. The trigger pull is very nice, but I'm hoping that it will get even better as I'm used to my Colt 1991...which this aint.

Future upgrades? Definitely need to get a tritium front sight. The skateboard frontstrap treatment is working well, but I see a stippling job in the future, maybe a hard chrome coat, as well.

Any thoughts on the plastic guide rod? Any need to replace it with a steel version?

Also, all MecGar magazines performed very well with the exception of letting the 147grn dive down. The slam pads might not be stock CZ, but they functioned wonderfully, looked perfect, and made reloading a snap. Can't ask much more than that.

I love this gun. :)
 
Thanks Vaughn for the review. Nice job. I bought a 9mm CZ-75 SA about a year and a half ago and it's a keeper for sure. I bought it for an IDPA ESP project gun, but I haven't done anything to it yet except changing the grips to a set of semi-hard rubber ones and champhering the mag well a little. Actually, the gun doesn't need much done. The trigger pull is not bad and getting better. My biggest complaint is the so-so sights. I'd really wish Heinie made sights for the CZ.

Thanks for the heads up on the Beretta mag pads.
 
Gene, if you can't find spare CZ 75b mags at the gunshows, keep in mind that any Tangfolio TZ75 mag will work, too.

I'm thinking about trying some of the CPMI +2 magazine extensions that brownell's sells. They market them for the Beretta, but they should work just like the slam pads. That would give me 17-18 rounds :what: in the handle, depending on what mags I use.

"They might not be as big as a .45acp, but, by God, I have a whole bunch of em heading yer way!!" :evil:
 
http://p201.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792 CZ Forum.com
http://www.imageseek.com/hakan/ Great custom grips!
http://www.hbeleatherworks.com/ Great custom CZ leather
http://www.jackashcustom.com/ Stainless steel guide rods for CZs.
http://p201.ezboard.com/fczechpistols82792frm25.showMessage?topicID=113.topic Magazine compatability for CZs.

The older Tanfolgio mags, such as TZ75 and TA90 should work, but anything newer, as in 15 years or so ago, for Witness pistols, will probably not work. BUT, new CZ mags are quite cheap, aftermarket.
 
I would not worry about the plastic guide rod. I think people normally replace them simply to make themseleves feel "better" (no plastic) or to add extra weight (but the gun is already pretty heavy).

I thought about and decided that my money was better spent elsewhere. if it's ever a problem, I'll replace it - until them leave it alone.
 
My CZ75B has become my favorite pistol. I've added skateboard tape to the front and back of the grip, and painted the rear sight yellow and the front sight red. It is extremely accurate and reliable. I'm thinking of getting another, but need to get rid of a BHP Practical first.
 
Keep the plastic guide rod. It actually acts partially as a recoil buffer. The steel one doesn't perform that function.
 
I've tested my CZs and CZ clones (which allow it) with and without the steel guide rod, and with and without the Full Length Guide Rod.

I cannot tell the difference, and cannot see a difference in performance.

Some folks claim the full length guide rods keep the recoil spring from kinking, but the only recoil spring I ever had kink (to the point that the gun locked up and wouldn't function), was in a 1911 with a two-piece full-length guide rod.

The steel guide rods, however, look a lot better, and if you've got a gun that accomodates a ful-length guide rod, the stainless steel guide rods look nice.

I've kept my CZs the way they came -- if they came with a FLGR, it has a FLGR. If it came with a plastic guide rod, it has a plastic guide rod.

(CZ says the use of a full-length steel guide rod will void the warranty on some of its newer "compact" guns. If you decide to go that route, keep the old one, and if you ever have to send the gun back to CZ, be sure the original guide rod is installed.)
 
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