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Disgusted with Republicans again.

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Bush stopped the federal government from using Justice dept. and HUD dept. tax dollars in efforts to go after gun owners and gun manufacturers. He reversed the previous administrations assertion that the 2nd Amendment was a "collective" right back to "individual"! These are important wins for gun owners. Ones that certainly wouldn't have happened under Gore, and ones that will be reversed again under a Kerry win. That's a pretty big difference between Republicans and Democrats in my book. It galled me to no end, to see my tax dollars used to fight against the 2nd Amendment. I haven't always been happy with Bush, but not voting for him might end up erasing the above.
 
Cool Hand... have to agree with you. Nader did get some republican votes. I am a registered republican and I voted for him. BUT in New York I knew it wouldn't not make any difference, Bush was going to lose in this state big time. I would sure hope that no republican in any of the true battleground states voted Nader.

I also agree that Bush senior not only broke his promise he ran a very poor campaign. Shame on him.
 
No, all THAT is a myth. I lived Arizona for a couple of years and Cali for 6 yrs and Florida here for 10 yearsand can say INS is all over companies that hire illegals, not to mention insurance companies and unions. Almost all trades now one must prove citizenship and be certified. DoT and DMV and Teamsters checks truckers, USDA and MPU checks meatpackers. Heavy equipment? Forgettaboutit, they have to be more certified than truckers. I'm in the construction trade and I can tell ya NO contractor that wants to stay in business long will allow illegals on the job. Same with small business. Sure there may be a few companies that hire a few illegals, but most the illegals I've seen are migrant workers who slave in the fields planting and gathering our food and clean our houses and care for our lawns.

I am going to have to disagree with you again.

Illegals are NOT confining themselves solely to menial jobs cleaning offices, picking fruit, and digging ditches.

They are opening construction businesses, auto repair shops, landscaping outfits, groceries, resturants, buying property both commercial and residential, etc.

I think you need to get beyond the image of illegal immigrants as a crowd of dusty brown pesants standing behind Ceasar Chavez in a 1963 Life Magazine photo.

BTW- I can match you personal anecdote for personal anecdote. I know folks who own their own contracting businesses that have to compete with those owned by Mexican illegals, Teamsters who've lost good paying jobs to Mexican illegals who'll drive for 1/4th thier wage, lots of folks who work with Perdue and Tyson foods who've seem the huge influx of illegals, lots of neighbors who have had the experience of finding out the Mexican illegal owned home repair contractors they've hired are not bonded or insured, etc...

To say the INS is "all over" companies hiring illegals is innacurate. They are not doing a good job on that, the laws are not being enforced, there is very little fear from most employers that they are going to suffer any penalty for hiring illegals.
 
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MacViolinist, trot out the rebuttals. Simply accusing someone of being a party hack won't cut it

He won't, you can count on it. He wouldn't stoop to a cowardly personal attack if he had the knowledge on the subject to offer anything more intelligent.
 
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